F-22 Becomes a Reality

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  • GT98
    FanBoy
    • Aug 1999
    • 4408

    #16
    Originally posted by Brian R.

    As far as the cost goes, you get what you pay for. This is probably the last fighter to be developed by the US for another 20 years. Once a project of this magnitude begins, it develops a momentum that is hard to block.
    I would agree it being the last manned fighter developed for the next 20 years or so, if not longer. They are already developing unmanned fighters to do the more dangerous roles that should come into service in another 10 years and at a much cheaper cost then a manned fighter.

    As for the military using outdated equipment...why not..if its not broke dont fix it. Shit they still use 286's on the Space Shuttle LOL. I was supporting DEC VAX equpiment running wargame simulations as late as 2003 when they where replaced by a PC based system. The reason? It stupid how much they where paying for replacement parts, when a PC based system was a hell of a lot of cheaper and easier to get parts for.
    Why is it called tourist season, if we can't shoot at them?

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    • TransformX
      Super MURCer
      • Sep 2003
      • 4946

      #17
      Next time they should opensource the jet.
      Who cares about the tech when the U.S is one of the only economies in the world capable of FUNDING such a project ?

      If I have a secret which costs more than you can afford, it's not important whether you know it or not...
      "For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism."

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      • Wombat
        Super MURCer
        • Aug 2000
        • 9498

        #18
        Never underestimate how much money a country can divert into its military program. North Korea is a good example.
        Gigabyte P35-DS3L with a Q6600, 2GB Kingston HyperX (after *3* bad pairs of Crucial Ballistix 1066), Galaxy 8800GT 512MB, SB X-Fi, some drives, and a Dell 2005fpw. Running WinXP.

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        • Brian R.
          Super MURCer
          • Aug 1999
          • 3874

          #19
          Any questions, go here:

          The Office of George W. Bush (OGWB) is the office of the 43rd President of the United States. The office works together in support of President Bush and Mrs. Laura Bush.


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          • Ribbit
            Super MURCer
            • Apr 2001
            • 1174

            #20
            ...unless you're not in America.
            Blah blah blah nick blah blah confusion, blah blah blah blah frog.

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            • ZokesPro
              Serial Murcerer
              • Sep 2000
              • 8325

              #21
              The first thing I noticed on that page that is the pic in the middle that says "WHATEVER IT TAkES" with that kid holding a flag. And how true it is.
              Titanium is the new bling!
              (you heard from me first!)

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              • az
                Moderator
                • Feb 2001
                • 9336

                #22
                Originally posted by Ribbit
                ...unless you're not in America.
                Yep. Appaling.

                AZ
                There's an Opera in my macbook.

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                • Wombat
                  Super MURCer
                  • Aug 2000
                  • 9498

                  #23
                  Then go to www.georgewbush.org
                  Gigabyte P35-DS3L with a Q6600, 2GB Kingston HyperX (after *3* bad pairs of Crucial Ballistix 1066), Galaxy 8800GT 512MB, SB X-Fi, some drives, and a Dell 2005fpw. Running WinXP.

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                  • Brian R.
                    Super MURCer
                    • Aug 1999
                    • 3874

                    #24
                    LOL

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                    • UtwigMU
                      Super MURCer
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 5651

                      #25
                      Here's the direct link to Bush site.

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                      • Novdid
                        Super MURCer
                        • Nov 2000
                        • 2609

                        #26
                        Nice website!

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                        • isochar
                          Super MURCer
                          • Nov 1999
                          • 1113

                          #27
                          You won't be King of the Hill for long if you just sit on your ass waiting until someone challenges you. The only reason this costed so much is because of the bureaucracy... but we wouldn't have it otherwise!

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                          • GT98
                            FanBoy
                            • Aug 1999
                            • 4408

                            #28
                            Originally posted by isochar
                            You won't be King of the Hill for long if you just sit on your ass waiting until someone challenges you. The only reason this costed so much is because of the bureaucracy... but we wouldn't have it otherwise!
                            Very true...the ATF program that begat the F-22 was started in the mid-80's. The newer F-35 JSF was started in the early 90's and the plane will hopefully go into service in 2008, in a much shorter period of time and be much cheaper.
                            Why is it called tourist season, if we can't shoot at them?

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                            • DukeP
                              Super MURCer
                              • Nov 1999
                              • 1830

                              #29
                              I think a lot of people working within presumably hightech industries could learn from the grafix companies.

                              30 years time to complete? Try 6 months.

                              Outsource every single part of the jet.
                              Design based on 1) shape 2) power 3) armaments 4) electronics.

                              Then just let everybody start the biddnig. Closing time; 6 months. Production timed; 12 months.

                              It works for the automobile industri - and dont tell me that a modern car isnt 3 times as technical as that assold plane.

                              ~~DukeP~~

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                              • Fluff
                                Super MURCer
                                • Apr 2002
                                • 1522

                                #30
                                The thing is. Surely after 20 years a better overall design has been thought up.
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