MACH 9.7 @ 110K feet

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  • Dr Mordrid
    Moderator
    • Apr 2001
    • 26592

    #1

    MACH 9.7 @ 110K feet





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    I carry a gun because I can't throw a rock 1,250 fps
  • gt40
    This space for rent
    • Sep 1999
    • 3973

    #2


    congrats to the X-43A team!
    Yeah, well I'm gonna build my own lunar space lander! With blackjack aaaaannd Hookers! Actually, forget the space lander, and the blackjack. Ahhhh forget the whole thing!

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    • K6-III
      Super MURCer
      • Dec 2000
      • 2253

      #3
      Hmm...scramjet launched from airship accelerated with ion propulsion....interesting...
      Let us return to the moon, to stay!!!

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      • ALBPM
        Super MURCer
        • Aug 1999
        • 3868

        #4
        I want one!!
        "Never interfere with the enemy when he is in the process of destroying himself"

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        • Jon P. Inghram
          Super MURCer
          • Oct 1999
          • 3878

          #5
          Hmm...scramjet launched from airship accelerated with ion propulsion....interesting..
          Eh?

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          • mmp121
            MURCer
            • Aug 2001
            • 683

            #6
            My thoughts exactly...
            Go Bunny GO!


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            • Dr Mordrid
              Moderator
              • Apr 2001
              • 26592

              #7
              'eh indeed.

              Getting one up to altitude with an airship then using a booster to get to ignition speed perhaps. That said IMO the more economical solution would be a re-usable solid (or hybrid) booster that's man rated.

              SRB's have been touted as such a launch vehicle (with a different grain size of the fuel to reduce the G load), but hybrids are throttleable, restartable, non-explosive and environmentally cleaner than most other booster techs.

              Dr. Mordrid
              Last edited by Dr Mordrid; 17 November 2004, 13:17.
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              • Jon P. Inghram
                Super MURCer
                • Oct 1999
                • 3878

                #8
                It's the "airship accelerated with ion propulsion" part that's a tad confusing. I think he meant "A satellite using ion propulsion put into orbit via a scramjet launched from a balloon." I think.
                Last edited by Jon P. Inghram; 18 November 2004, 11:44.

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                • K6-III
                  Super MURCer
                  • Dec 2000
                  • 2253

                  #9
                  I mean to first take the airship to altitude where the air is much thinner, and the drag on the airship would hence be significantly reduced.

                  Then, using ion drive, the airship could be taken to orbit.

                  Should the drag be too great for airship to orbit, the airship can be used as a platform to launch the scramjet. (1st stage for scramjet)
                  Let us return to the moon, to stay!!!

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                  • KvHagedorn
                    Super MURCer
                    • Aug 1999
                    • 10725

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Jon P. Inghram
                    It's the "airship accelerated with ion propulsion" part that's a tad confusing. I think he meant "A satellite using ion propulsion put into orbit via a scramjet launched from a ballon." I think.
                    Another classic for ALBPM's list.

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                    • Marshmallowman
                      Super MURCer
                      • Sep 1999
                      • 3416

                      #11
                      I though ion enigines were really only suitable for vacuums of at least interplanetary space.

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                      • K6-III
                        Super MURCer
                        • Dec 2000
                        • 2253

                        #12
                        The main problem with ion propulsion is that while they produce excellent specific impulse, they suffer from limited thrust due to lack of power. Solar power just doesn't cut it.

                        Now if the power is beamed up to the airship via microwave from a ground-based power station, that limitation can be overcome...

                        Then, we can use airships as shuttles to orbit and back...so long as the numbers hold up....
                        Let us return to the moon, to stay!!!

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