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  • VJ
    Moderator
    • Mar 2001
    • 9733

    #1

    English language question...

    I'm writing a paper, and have a simple English language question...

    Is "it stands to reason" still used (in a scientific paper)?
    Or is it better to replace it by something else?



    Jörg
    pixar
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  • KvHagedorn
    Super MURCer
    • Aug 1999
    • 10725

    #2
    It's something of a cliche, but yes, used properly, it should be fine. What is the rest of the sentence/paragraph?

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    • VJ
      Moderator
      • Mar 2001
      • 9733

      #3
      Euhm, pulling the sentence out of its context will make it appear quite odd...

      But I'm sure it will be ok, I just wasn't sure if this construction was ok in current texts (it could have been an archaic form).


      Jörg
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      • KvHagedorn
        Super MURCer
        • Aug 1999
        • 10725

        #4
        Well it is rather vague, so if you use it in a scientific paper, you'd better be sure you give the specific reasons it stands to.

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        • Brian Ellis
          Super MURCer
          • Sep 1999
          • 9623

          #5
          It's somewhat informal for a scientific paper, IMHO.

          I feel that, "Logically, a should be greater than b" is better than, "It stands to reason that a should be greater than b". If "logically" is too cut and dried, there are plenty of nuances:
          naturally, (as a matter) of course, needless to say, to be sure, certainly, surely, not unexpectedly, as expected or anticipated, obviously, clearly, consequently, as a consequence or result:
          Brian (the devil incarnate)

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          • VJ
            Moderator
            • Mar 2001
            • 9733

            #6
            KvH: yes, of course, there must be an explanation as to why it stands to reason.

            Brian: Odd, I didn't interpret it as informal... But you offer some very nice alternatives.


            Jörg
            pixar
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            • cjolley
              Super MURCer
              • Aug 1999
              • 7672

              #7
              Originally posted by VJ
              Brian: Odd, I didn't interpret it as informal... But you offer some very nice alternatives.

              Jörg
              He has written a lot of scientific papers, so it stands to reason he could give you some good advice.
              Chuck
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              • VJ
                Moderator
                • Mar 2001
                • 9733

                #8
                ROFLMAO


                Jörg
                pixar
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                • dshumake
                  MURCer
                  • May 2002
                  • 126

                  #9
                  I would just use: Therefore,


                  dshumake

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                  • xortam
                    Super MURCer
                    • Sep 1999
                    • 4534

                    #10
                    Originally posted by cjolley
                    He has written a lot of scientific papers, so it stands to reason he could give you some good advice.
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                    • Gurm
                      MS Fanboy
                      • Aug 1999
                      • 11460

                      #11
                      It'z alwayz best to say:

                      "Listen up, motherbizzles! A iz bettah den B 'cuz I said so, an' dat's da HOLE TRUFE!"

                      Best to wave 'roun' yo' 9 whilez ya talking. People sit up, pay attention. WHACK!
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                      • VJ
                        Moderator
                        • Mar 2001
                        • 9733

                        #12
                        Righ' on bro! Tha iz tellin 'em!

                        (but I doubt my colleagues will allow my paper through if I phrase it like that...)


                        Jörg
                        pixar
                        Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die tomorrow. (James Dean)

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                        • Gurm
                          MS Fanboy
                          • Aug 1999
                          • 11460

                          #13
                          Originally posted by VJ
                          Righ' on bro! Tha iz tellin 'em!

                          (but I doubt my colleagues will allow my paper through if I phrase it like that...)


                          Jörg
                          You needs a higher kalibah of "colleagues" den. My "associates" are more den happy to hear such eluci-dations whilst drinkin deyre magnums of Cristal!
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                          I'm the least you could do
                          If only life were as easy as you
                          I'm the least you could do, oh yeah
                          If only life were as easy as you
                          I would still get screwed

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                          • degrub
                            MURCer
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 882

                            #14
                            i was taught that if it was something the reader should know. make a reference to the seminal paper or other reference and move on. Otherwise, it may sound like 1) the writer believes it ought to be this way, but cannot prove it (maybe you are proposing a theory - in which case perfect !) or 2) the writer is stating something that is or should be obvious to the audience. In that case, why mention it ?

                            just my 2 cents.

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                            • KvHagedorn
                              Super MURCer
                              • Aug 1999
                              • 10725

                              #15
                              Originally posted by degrub
                              i was taught that if it was something the reader should know. make a reference to the seminal paper or other reference and move on. Otherwise, it may sound like 1) the writer believes it ought to be this way, but cannot prove it (maybe you are proposing a theory - in which case perfect !) or 2) the writer is stating something that is or should be obvious to the audience. In that case, why mention it ?

                              just my 2 cents.
                              Seminal paper? Is that what you call that pile of tissues overflowing your trash can in the bedroom?

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