Remember the Acid2 test?

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  • az
    Moderator
    • Feb 2001
    • 9336

    #1

    Remember the Acid2 test?

    Remember that CSS2 test "Acid2". It was done by Opera's CTO HÃ¥kon Wium Lie (inventor of CSS), and many of you assumed this would just be a marketing instrument for Opera. Well, every Opera version fails this test. IE, unsurprisingly, does, too, and FF also doesn't render it correctly. Maybe some KHTML browser does, I don't know since I can't afford a mac

    So I'm hoping this test will, like the first Acid test did, help spread the support for CSS.

    AZ
    There's an Opera in my macbook.
  • schmosef
    Super MURCer
    • Dec 2002
    • 5813

    #2
    i wonder what browser was used for reference?
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    • UtwigMU
      Super MURCer
      • Jul 2002
      • 5651

      #3
      Az - get Suse, you can install it free of FTP, it has KHTML and looks (eyecendy, polish, system sounds) very good. If I were übergeek I'd install it on a laptop, go to cafe and expect tons of babes to start taking interest in me - yes it looks that good.

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      • KeiFront
        Super MURCer
        • Sep 2001
        • 2668

        #4
        Safari also fails the test, not that it surprises me.
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        • Nowhere
          Super MURCer
          • Jun 2002
          • 4830

          #5
          A little surprising is that Amaya also fails...

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          • cjolley
            Super MURCer
            • Aug 1999
            • 7672

            #6
            Originally posted by UtwigMU
            ...If I were übergeek I'd install it on a laptop, go to cafe and expect tons of babes to start taking interest in me...
            Isn't this basically the definition of geek?
            Chuck
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            • UtwigMU
              Super MURCer
              • Jul 2002
              • 5651

              #7
              I don't know. I know that a cute dog or perhaps a car would be far more effective than OS, but I notice people posting how they perceive chicks taking interest in their laptops.

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              • Jessterw
                Style Master, Rtd.
                • Jul 2002
                • 4265

                #8
                If Safari fails then KHTML will definitely fail, since the former uses an enhancement of latter.
                “And, remember: there's no 'I' in 'irony'” ~ Merlin Mann

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                • Jessterw
                  Style Master, Rtd.
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 4265

                  #9
                  As much as I'd like to see better support for CSS, I'd much rather see better support for all the current specs - including a revamping of CSS so that it makes sense from a design perspective rather than from that of a coder. That alone would increase the usage of CSS, but alas it's likely a pipe-dream because the W3C is more concerned with rolling out new standards that conflict with what most web developers really want (evident in the W3C's new standard for web forms versus that coming from the web development community).

                  /rant
                  “And, remember: there's no 'I' in 'irony'” ~ Merlin Mann

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                  • az
                    Moderator
                    • Feb 2001
                    • 9336

                    #10
                    So, what would you like (give examples)?

                    Multiple background images for elements that can have different alignments? Pixel-perfect cross-browser positioning? Vertical centering in the viewport?

                    AZ
                    There's an Opera in my macbook.

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                    • Jessterw
                      Style Master, Rtd.
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 4265

                      #11
                      Don't know about the other browsers, but Dave Hyatt is making sure Safari renders the Acid2 test page correctly...

                      The Acid2 Test and The Acid2 Test, Row One
                      (archives are currently unstyled, but the posts can be seen on the frontpage currently)
                      “And, remember: there's no 'I' in 'irony'” ~ Merlin Mann

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                      • az
                        Moderator
                        • Feb 2001
                        • 9336

                        #12
                        That's good to see, interesting, and greast marketing!

                        AZ
                        There's an Opera in my macbook.

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                        • Jessterw
                          Style Master, Rtd.
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 4265

                          #13
                          Dave has Safari passing all but one portion of the Acid2 test now - the portion that deals with the behavior of the object element. Wonder where the other browser devs are at with this, especially Opera given a certain developer's involvement...
                          “And, remember: there's no 'I' in 'irony'” ~ Merlin Mann

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                          • az
                            Moderator
                            • Feb 2001
                            • 9336

                            #14
                            Opera 8 does not render the Acid2 test well at all. Opera employees don't think Opera 8.1 will either. The test was ensured one day after feature freeze, when Opera 8 was in bug fixing only stage; they didn't want to delay it any longer (which was the right decision IMHO). They've made clear they don't see this as a race but rather as a mid-term goal and as a marketing vehicle for all alternative browsers against IE (or, should MS surprise us all, a marketing opportunity for them).

                            BTW, I think it's really impressive how just one guy can fix so many things in Safari in just a few days.

                            AZ
                            There's an Opera in my macbook.

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                            • Jessterw
                              Style Master, Rtd.
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 4265

                              #15
                              Dave has run into a few issues with rendering, but, according to him, there is possibly a problem with test itself. He has halted work on Acid2 until the bug can be verified and corrected.

                              It is somewhat interesting that since no browser renders the test correctly, it's impossible to actually verify that the test itself is correct. Sure there are the specs, but even those can be contradictory or unclear.

                              Sorry, almost forgot, here's a link:
                              Last edited by Jessterw; 21 April 2005, 06:22. Reason: Added Link
                              “And, remember: there's no 'I' in 'irony'” ~ Merlin Mann

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