London again, terrorist...boom?

[Sasq]

post the scan, if they whine, i pull it. just of course in your post include all due reference to company and date published.
personally I view it as no different to all of us going to a UK public library.

do see if you can find a link to the article first though.

[Gurm]

I'll see what I can do. Also I have a nice scan from the Daily Mail - a friend took my advice and read a paper he didn't usually agreed with, to find an article that summed up some of his own thoughts fairly well. Dan what's your opinion on me posting the scan? (Copyright etc - AFAIK they have a rubbish website that has no news).

I'll happily host it if you don't feel comfy with it being posted on MURC.

[Nowhere]

Curiouser and curiouser.

Depending on who's news reports you beleive is Bullshit (to quote BP), plain clothes police challenged Mr de Menezes in the station foyer. He then leapt the barrier and did a runner with uniformed police standing around.


Or, uniformed police stood idly by and watched three blokes with guns chased a man with a bag through the foyer, leapt the barriers and ran down towards the trains.

(For those unfamilar with British Police, most wear floursecent yellow jackets over black uniforms and frequently the tall conical helmet. They're about as visible as you can get without the use of disco lights.)

They could be aware of it...and if he panicked he could possibly "not notice" them.

Anyway, to me the rape story at the beginning just points out that there could be reasons for not acting rationally.
And death squads...AFAI understand it wasn't about such things in GB, but in Brasil, where the killed lived for a long time...old habits.

[GNEP]

Here's the scan, from today's (July 26th 2005) UK Daily Mail, London edition if there is one. Tried to keep the filesize small, but still readable.

Here is a related article from their website.

Background info for those not from the UK: the Daily Mail is a right-wing tabloid, to put it as succinctly as I can, with IIRC a relatively high female readership (not that that's relevant!)

George

[Brian Ellis]

I read your scan and the link. For once I tend to agree with the rag in question (rare for me to agree with a right-wing popular tabloid), despite several glaring errors (e.g., the 5 bullets became 7 in the headline and 8 in the body of the text).

Even more alarming, the Daily Telegraph (also very right wing, of a slightly higher intellectual level) expressed an almost vigilantes approach. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m.../26/do2602.xml

[Fluff]

Message at Notting Hill Tube station

[Brian Ellis]

I take it that some yob considers this funny, rather than an official notice. :vomit:

[RichL]

Ah, typically British.
Cracking jokes even in the grimmest of times.

[GNEP]

Sorry for bringing this thread back from the dead, but I've just met up with a couple of old barmates. One is in the army, recently back from Iraq, and one is a plod. We haven't had an official report yet, but both of them (independently tonight) intimated to me that this sort of shooting of someone on the tube was not the work of regular police. More like special plods or army of some sort. i.e. not the type to panic and make a mistake.

For Dan's benefit, there hasn't been an awful lot new on this case in the press since the shooting.

George.

EDIT: I don't mean "special plods" like scotland yard with guns. I mean people with a lot more training than that.

[KvHagedorn]

People whose names start with "00" and have a license to kill?

[GNEP]

No. More like an army unit.

[Brian Ellis]

Could be the SAS. I recently watched a TV series where 2 ex-SAS types gave the low-down on the service. Frightening. Certainly, it would seem to fit.

[GNEP]

One of the blokes last night reckoned SBS rather than SAS for some reason... so you're on the right track. I forget his reasoning though because I'd had a few by then...

[RichL]

One of the blokes last night reckoned SBS rather than SAS for some reason... so you're on the right track. I forget his reasoning though because I'd had a few by then...

Did it involve the shooter crying "Arr, put the bag down ye scurvy varmint!" ?

[Sasq]

well considering the stakes, it would make more sense for it to be higher trained the 'Mr Plod'

but it does call into question them identifing themselves as police...