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  • VJ
    Moderator
    • Mar 2001
    • 9733

    #1

    math/language question

    Hello,

    Probabely a simple question for the English speaking mathematicians here. Suppose you have a function:
    Code:
    f: A -> B
       x -> x^2 for x in [0,1]
       x -> x^3 for x in ]1,2]
    How do you call a function like this (i.e. a function that cannot be defined using a single expression, but is defined over different sections)? Is it just called piecewise, or is there a specific term for it?

    Thanks!


    Jörg
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  • GuchiGuh
    Comic Relief
    • Jun 2002
    • 1656

    #2
    Correct, its a "piecewise defined function"


    btw, Joerg, one of your square brackets is facing the wrong way

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    • VJ
      Moderator
      • Mar 2001
      • 9733

      #3
      Thanks, I thought there would have been a specific term for it...

      While this function was merely in illustration, the bracket is NOT facing the wrong way: it is indicating a half-open interval. For this function, it wouldn't matter, but it changes if you consider this one:
      Code:
      f: A -> B
         x -> x^2 for x in [0,2]
         x -> x^3 for x in ]2,4]
      The function is discontinous in 2, if the second piece would be defined over [2,4], you'd get 2 functionvalues for one x value (4 for the first piece and 8 for the second piece). In this situation, you'll loose a number of properties. By defining it over a half-open interval, the function is an image (I hope 'image' is the right term).


      Jörg
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      • Umfriend
        Crabby Smurf
        • Mar 2001
        • 7308

        #4
        Uhm, not that I would know about these things, but even in the first function, AFAICS, it does matter as the funtion would have two derivatives for x=2?
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        • VJ
          Moderator
          • Mar 2001
          • 9733

          #5
          Excellent remark!
          I hadn't considered that...

          But I'm not convinced it would be such a problem. The function is continous but not smooth (i.e. derivative is not continous). Even in the case with the half-open interval, you would have to consider the left and right derivative (using a limit) of 2.



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          • Umfriend
            Crabby Smurf
            • Mar 2001
            • 7308

            #6
            Can't you limit the use of a limit ( ) to the first piece though?
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            • VJ
              Moderator
              • Mar 2001
              • 9733

              #7
              Well yes, you only need the limit for the second piece...
              (my sentence did give the wrong impression... )


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              • Umfriend
                Crabby Smurf
                • Mar 2001
                • 7308

                #8
                No Smurf knows math better than I do (nope, Math Smurf ain't born yet)! That's why we live in mushroowms and our dam always breaks,
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                • dshumake
                  MURCer
                  • May 2002
                  • 126

                  #9
                  This type of function is also known as a step function.

                  Another nomenclature is using a parenthesis to indicate that the number enclosed is actually a limit to that number.

                  f: A -> B
                  x -> x^2 for x in [0,2]
                  x -> x^3 for x in (2,4]


                  There can be many steps.

                  dshumake

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                  • VJ
                    Moderator
                    • Mar 2001
                    • 9733

                    #10
                    Correct me if I'm wrong, but it is only a step-function if it isn't continuous.
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                    • Wombat
                      Super MURCer
                      • Aug 2000
                      • 9498

                      #11
                      This is NOT a step function.


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                      • Gurm
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                        • Aug 1999
                        • 11460

                        #12
                        HAHA! Between Wikipedia and Snopes... we can correct anyone, anytime!
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