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  • Gurm
    MS Fanboy
    • Aug 1999
    • 11460

    #1

    New (used) car, choices choices!

    So I have to decide on a car to get.

    I've driven a few, and right now there are a couple deals too good to pass up.

    Both cars are $1500, give or take a few pennies.

    Car 1:

    1994 Volvo 850 Wagon
    Teal Green with Tan Leather Interior
    5-speed manual transmission
    205,000 Miles
    Mechanically sound
    Cosmetics needs:
    - Driver's seat is torn.
    - Rear seat bench is torn.
    - Minor exterior cosmetics such as gas cap, a couple minor dents (nothing too terrible).
    - New armrest desired.
    Pluses:
    - Engine seems great.
    - It's a wagon, has the third row seat.
    Minuses:
    - Non-turbo 850's are slugs, this is somewhat better due to the stick but still it's pokey.
    - It's a 1994, pretty much the oldest I'd go.
    - Front tires are goodyear, rears are generic. It'd need snows for the winter, and maybe new tires all the way around.
    - It's too damn cold to know how well the AC works, although the heat is just fine and the AC doesn't make any noise, the AC is known to fail in Volvos. It did in my 960 at around 100K.
    Needs:
    - Driver's seat: $100-$250 depending.
    - Misc. Trim Bits: $100 total.
    - Hard-core detailing.
    - Maybe rear tires.
    - AC? Unknown.
    - Rear Seat Bench: $100
    - Armrest: $50
    Total cost:
    - $2000 plus maybe rear tires, and definitely snows.

    Car 2:

    1995 Volvo 850 T-5 Sedan
    White with charcoal leather interior
    4-speed automatic transmission w/overdrive
    230,000 Miles
    Mechanically needs:
    - Radiator
    - Belts
    - Left front axle
    Cosmetics needs:
    - Driver's seat side bolster is worn. Needs leather repair or new cover.
    Pluses:
    - Engine seems pretty solid.
    - It's a T-5. It goes like STINK.
    - Sensible aftermarket upgrades, the kind that make it a better car, such as a K&N airbox, and Bilstein lifetime guarantee sport shocks.
    - Recently redone front suspension - the axle on the left is the last part to need replacing.
    - Relatively recent exhaust.
    - AC completely rebuilt last year.
    - Newish Toyo sport tires on the car, plus mounted snows on a spare set of rims.
    Minuses:
    - Gets a couple MPG less than the non-turbo (19/26 versus 20/28).
    - It's got another 20-25K miles on it. The odometer busted at 215, it's been driven about six months since then.
    Needs:
    - Radiator: $250-$300
    - Left front axle: $100
    - Alignment/balance: $75
    - Belts/misc: $50
    Total cost:
    - $2000ish, done deal.

    So clearly the wagon represents the greater cost. I'm torn. Now this assumes that neither one turns out to have a hidden problem when I have the dealership check them out. We'll see. But it's a tough call. On the one hand... wagon, kids... on the other hand the other car is arguably nicer.

    Thoughts?
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  • Tjalfe
    Super MURCer
    • Nov 2002
    • 3053

    #2
    what ever happened to the other volvo project?.. should you not finish that one first?
    We have enough youth - What we need is a fountain of smart!


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    • Gurm
      MS Fanboy
      • Aug 1999
      • 11460

      #3
      Originally posted by tjalfe
      what ever happened to the other volvo project?.. should you not finish that one first?
      Ohhh! Yes yes. The other Volvo project was scrapped due to ... STANK. And a couple previously unseen problems. A bit of a coolant issue plus a tranny problem... but worst of all was the STANK. Irremovable, implacable STANK. It was bad. I figured it'd dissipate, but it got worse. As summer wore on, the stank was compounded by mildew. In the end, I got my money back out of it, but BARELY.
      The Internet - where men are men, women are men, and teenage girls are FBI agents!

      I'm the least you could do
      If only life were as easy as you
      I'm the least you could do, oh yeah
      If only life were as easy as you
      I would still get screwed

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      • Kooldino
        Super MURCer
        • Nov 2002
        • 3026

        #4
        Hmm, car with some balls vs car with none. I think we all know which I'd obviously favor. :-P

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        • KvHagedorn
          Super MURCer
          • Aug 1999
          • 10725

          #5
          Any list of problems makes me wanna throw up. That's why I'm gonna buy a new Toyota Tundra. Never had a new car in my life. Now I will.. finally a car no one else has splooged in. OOOrah!

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          • Tjalfe
            Super MURCer
            • Nov 2002
            • 3053

            #6
            Originally posted by KvHagedorn
            Any list of problems makes me wanna throw up. That's why I'm gonna buy a new Toyota Tundra. Never had a new car in my life. Now I will.. finally a car no one else has splooged in. OOOrah!
            A truck makes great sense for you, hauling lumber to and from building sites, and allowing you to bring feed to your cattle... I am sure you would not buy a gas guzzeling truck just for driving to work ...especially in Texas, which is hardly known for snow requireing a 4x4
            We have enough youth - What we need is a fountain of smart!


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            • KvHagedorn
              Super MURCer
              • Aug 1999
              • 10725

              #7
              I'm getting a V8 monster which will do nothing but haul my own single fat ass to work and back.

              btw, I live 6 blocks from work.

              happy?

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              • GuchiGuh
                Comic Relief
                • Jun 2002
                • 1656

                #8
                nothing wrong with a V8

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                • gt40
                  This space for rent
                  • Sep 1999
                  • 3973

                  #9
                  Originally posted by KvHagedorn
                  I'm getting a V8 monster which will do nothing but haul my own single fat ass to work and back.

                  btw, I live 6 blocks from work.

                  happy?
                  Bah, I've got you beat!
                  I've got 3 V8's (5 if you count the spare motors) and I'm only 3 blocks from work

                  Nice truck BTW

                  Gurm - go for the power! you'll enjoy it more
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                  • Wombat
                    Super MURCer
                    • Aug 2000
                    • 9498

                    #10
                    Just make sure they took good care of the turbo.

                    I recently bought a 2001 Audi A4 1.8T and I'm enjoying the hell out of it
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                    • Jessterw
                      Style Master, Rtd.
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 4265

                      #11
                      I've been thinking about getting a H2 to drive my kids to school and back. Well one of them at least. Never know what kind of terrain I might encounter on that four mile trip
                      “And, remember: there's no 'I' in 'irony'” ~ Merlin Mann

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                      • Elie
                        MURC Writer
                        • Aug 1999
                        • 4420

                        #12
                        My recommendation is not to buy a used Volvo, especially older models.

                        Regards,
                        Elie

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                        • KvHagedorn
                          Super MURCer
                          • Aug 1999
                          • 10725

                          #13


                          Reliability is my main criteria in purchasing a vehicle. I hate having things break or not work properly on delivery. I know someone with a Nissan Titan that's two years old, and it has a major squeaky noise when it is moving. Really wouldn't want to have to troubleshoot it, but it seems like something major. You might wanna rethink the H2 if you are serious, JW.. doesn't look too good on the reliability scale..

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                          • Nowhere
                            Super MURCer
                            • Jun 2002
                            • 4830

                            #14
                            If reliabilty is your main criteria, I'm sure Toyota Aygo or Corolla isn't worse

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                            • Gurm
                              MS Fanboy
                              • Aug 1999
                              • 11460

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Elie
                              My recommendation is not to buy a used Volvo, especially older models.

                              Regards,
                              Elie
                              Considering that I already drive a used "older" Volvo...
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                              I'm the least you could do
                              If only life were as easy as you
                              I'm the least you could do, oh yeah
                              If only life were as easy as you
                              I would still get screwed

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