Alternative to black holes proposed

[Technoid]

In the incredible bad movie "The Core" there is one goos scene:

One of the scientists goes off one of his "techno bable" explanations and one of the other characters stops him and says "Repeat after me 'I.. do.. not.. know..' "


It can actually be applied to much in cosmology

[Gurm]

The church has recognized the heliocentric solar system for hundreds of years. The Roman Catholics even have their own observatory in New Mexico.

Really? Interestingly enough, they didn't pardon Galileo until what... 1992? 1993? But I was being sarcastic and silly, and y'all ought to have known that. Don't be so quick to jump down others' throats for being sarcastically anti-Christian. After all, "Christianity" is at times anti-Christian.

[Fat Tone]

There's a national radio station in the UK called Talk Sport. From 10pm to 1pm during the week the presenter is James Whale. Great for going to sleep to. He suffers no fools, has a dry sense of humour, and covers all sorts of topics. Even has lesbians on the show just because they are lesbians.

Except that is in the past. Now all he talks about is f'ing religion - root of all evil dot dot dot.

Sadly, murc is going the same way.

Jason - I know it was a joke, and so should the rest.

I know there are threads on here that discuss the weighty matters and I generally keep out of them 'cos I get sick of it. This was an interesting thread and, like far too many, it got turned on its head.

Please guys, try and keep things more relaxed.

murc is my little oasis of intelligent comments, techno bable, geek speek and a sense of humour. My old job was in physics, surrounded by engineers and the like who spoke the same language. This job (last 5 years) I'm surrounded by psychologists, who wouldn't know dark matter from a UV bulb, a relay from a race. Stuck up academics who will never tell you what they are really thinking, just leave you to figure out what they really meant. murc is a refuge, safe haven, like minds even. Please keep it that way.

/rant off.

[Nowhere]

And besides...geocentric model isn't really "wrong" any more than heliocentric (relativity and stuff...), it's just that the latter is much more convenient when describing dynamics of the whole system/what forces cause the movement - anyone willing to do it in geocentric model would get a brainfart (and also heliocentric one adapted to observations with less radical changes to the whole model). I'd also say that planetarium makers love it

[Wombat]

And aren't you smart enough to see that I was saying this exact same thing to Gurm in a roundabout way?

Yeah, sure you were. :snort:

[Gurm]

What I want to know is simply this...

If no singularities really exist, then how are we supposed to build a Stargate!?!?!?

[Jammrock]

What I want to know is simply this...

If no singularities really exist, then how are we supposed to build a Stargate!?!?!?

very carefully

[Umfriend]

Lol

[Nowhere]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravastar

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark-energy_star

Ayy, yes, I was reading about it some time ago (Gravastar) - turns out it's basically the same thing, but now with more theory/credibility attached.

BTW, Gurm, not all hope is lost

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormhole

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_%28device%29

[Nowhere]

Really? Interestingly enough, they didn't pardon Galileo until what... 1992? 1993? But I was being sarcastic and silly, and y'all ought to have known that. Don't be so quick to jump down others' throats for being sarcastically anti-Christian. After all, "Christianity" is at times anti-Christian.

BTW, wasn't the Vatican very "pro BigBang"?

[Gurm]

BTW, wasn't the Vatican very "pro BigBang"?

When? I wouldn't be surprised if their official positions have all completely been changed under Pope JewSlayer XII.

[Claymonkey]

Interesting read. And guys... I TOTALLY agree with Fat Tone about Murc. Lets TRY for the heck of it to not find a way to twist every thread back onto or personal wars. I find the threads that focus on those topics interesting but I'm starting to wonder if the decrease in new threads and posts is just people getting sick of everything going south to quickly as of late. Anyway, carry on.

[VJ]

Gurm:
Actually, the pope was head of a commission investigating the genesis story (before he became pope). They came to the conclusion: "God created energy. This energy exploded (the big bang) which started a (steered?) evolution to create world we know.".
You can't but admire the simplicity of the scheme, and how it poses huge problems if one intends to refute it.


Nowhere: interesting article.

[Gurm]

Gurm:
Actually, the pope was head of a commission investigating the genesis story (before he became pope). They came to the conclusion: "God created energy. This energy exploded (the big bang) which started a (steered?) evolution to create world we know.".
You can't but admire the simplicity of the scheme, and how it poses huge problems if one intends to refute it.


Nowhere: interesting article.

I was being sarcastic, but thanks for this info!

[Nowhere]

Hmm...BigBang, as a new theory backthen, was very convenient for Vatican - it shows that our/observable Universe had a beginning. Anyway, for some time Vatican tries to live with/accept science - wasn't there also document/PR from them that left open the possibility for extraterrestrial life/intelligence?

The bigger problem might be GWB " - Wanna fly to Mars? Sure.
- Uhh...you're confirming more and more BigBang? /cuts funds/"