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  • agallag
    Super MURCer
    • Aug 1999
    • 3201

    #16
    I agree there are just as many black, hispanic, asian, or whatever else, racists in the world. As most of you know, I am in an inter-racial marriage, so I have a pretty good perspective on the situation. Admittedly, there's pretty wide acceptance of mixed couples in Canada, and most of the negative reactions come from the elder generations on the Chinese side. I find that just as offensive as racism from caucasians against any other race. People just need to grow up and accept the fact that the world has changed. If you don't like it, go live in the woods and raise your bigoted family away from the rest of us. You won't be missed.

    Any racism coming from someone of any race is unacceptable, so I fully support Sasq's decision.
    Lady, people aren't chocolates. Do you know what they are mostly? Bastards. Bastard coated bastards with bastard filling. But I don't find them half as annoying as I find naive, bubble-headed optimists who walk around vomiting sunshine. -- Dr. Perry Cox

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    • Dr Mordrid
      Moderator
      • Apr 2001
      • 26592

      #17
      Originally posted by agallag View Post
      Admittedly, there's pretty wide acceptance of mixed couples in Canada, and most of the negative reactions come from the elder generations on the Chinese side.
      Elder generations on most sides. Them, some youth poisoned by their elders and the radical political fringes of the extreme left and right.

      The guy KvH linked to is a far, far left radical. Lots of 'em in the elder black "leadership" in these parts. They are "black supremacists" not different at all from the KKK/NAZI/skinheads, just of opposite polarity and just as repugnant.

      Any racism coming from someone of any race is unacceptable, so I fully support Sasq's decision.
      Agreed

      However; let's not mistake harsh criticism for "racism". That mistake is made far too often. Tough love sometimes hurts.

      I can only imagine what he thought of that pic I posted of my daughter and her high school boyfriend
      Last edited by Dr Mordrid; 5 December 2006, 21:28.
      Dr. Mordrid
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      • Mehen
        Super Hamburglar
        • May 2002
        • 3395

        #18
        Originally posted by Dr Mordrid View Post
        The guy KvH linked to is a far, far left radical.

        I wouldn't even call that "left" - I would just call it stupid.

        I too support the decision - although this particular case I think to be an odd straw to break the camels back.
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        • gt40
          This space for rent
          • Sep 1999
          • 3973

          #19
          I tend to ignore complete threads once the subject gets overly bigoted or racist, so I'm sure I'm not aware of the extent of his transgressions.
          Dan is a pretty level headed guy, I would have to agree with any decision he makes
          Yeah, well I'm gonna build my own lunar space lander! With blackjack aaaaannd Hookers! Actually, forget the space lander, and the blackjack. Ahhhh forget the whole thing!

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          • Sasq
            Administrator
            • Jan 2001
            • 4635

            #20
            Originally posted by Dr Mordrid View Post
            However; let's not mistake harsh criticism for "racism". That mistake is made far too often. Tough love sometimes hurts.
            harsh criticism is fine. It's blind bigoted accusations that irritate me.
            yes this was an old straw, he had been warned, and he continued, pretty much end of story.

            We are all racist to some extent or another, its part of the in group/out group thing, the difference really is, if we are able to see beyond that, or more specifically if we are able to look into the mirror and work out why we feel that way, as opposed to blindly following down that path.
            Juu nin to iro


            English doesn't borrow from other languages. It follows them down dark alleys, knocks them over, and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.

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            • Jammrock
              The Berserker
              • Aug 1999
              • 8661

              #21
              Originally posted by Sasq View Post
              We are all racist to some extent or another...

              Reminds me of a joke:

              There are only two kinds of people I hate in the world! Racists and [insert racial/ethnic/cultural rival]!

              Jammrock
              “Inside every sane person there’s a madman struggling to get out”
              –The Light Fantastic, Terry Pratchett

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              • agallag
                Super MURCer
                • Aug 1999
                • 3201

                #22
                Originally posted by Dr Mordrid View Post
                However; let's not mistake harsh criticism for "racism". That mistake is made far too often. Tough love sometimes hurts.
                Totally agree. Criticism is not only okay, but necessary. For example, there are most certainly improvements to be made to the immigration policies of most western countries. Blaming the problems on the immigrants (as a whole) takes it over the line.

                Originally posted by Dr Mordrid View Post
                I can only imagine what he thought of that pic I posted of my daughter and her high school boyfriend
                Lady, people aren't chocolates. Do you know what they are mostly? Bastards. Bastard coated bastards with bastard filling. But I don't find them half as annoying as I find naive, bubble-headed optimists who walk around vomiting sunshine. -- Dr. Perry Cox

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                • Umfriend
                  Crabby Smurf
                  • Mar 2001
                  • 7308

                  #23
                  I'll miss him. really. It's good to have that certain person to get mad about "nearby" and yet have the comfort to know he's simply not of this world. I donnow, he, IMO, did define a part of murc.

                  Anyway. So long KvH. May you meet nothing but love, friends and hapiness and, well, loads of fine black muslim woman eager to rummage around with ya.
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                  • az
                    Moderator
                    • Feb 2001
                    • 9336

                    #24
                    I'm with the crabby one.
                    There's an Opera in my macbook.

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                    • schmosef
                      Super MURCer
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 5813

                      #25
                      yep
                      P.S. You've been Spanked!

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                      • Fat Tone
                        Super MURCer
                        • Aug 1999
                        • 7579

                        #26
                        Yes he could annoy me more than most on here, but I'll miss him.
                        FT.

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                        • ZokesPro
                          Serial Murcerer
                          • Sep 2000
                          • 8325

                          #27
                          So KvH is gone. MURC won't be the same without him. So long KvH, I'll miss you.
                          Titanium is the new bling!
                          (you heard from me first!)

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                          • Fluff
                            Super MURCer
                            • Apr 2002
                            • 1522

                            #28
                            I'll miss him too. One less B&W supporter.
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                            • cjolley
                              Super MURCer
                              • Aug 1999
                              • 7672

                              #29
                              I'll miss him too. (Us Chucks have to stick together )

                              I suspect "What everyone here needs to understand" has more to do with why he was banned than any particular beliefs he expressed.
                              Chuck
                              秋音的爸爸

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                              • Jessterw
                                Style Master, Rtd.
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 4265

                                #30
                                I'm not sure what there is to miss. Unless you like your Texans arrogant and dipped in hatred. Sorry, but there's been few posts of his as of late that haven't been filled with loathing of one ethnic group or another, and if that wasn't the case then he was berating other members for their choices in electronic equipment or speakers.

                                A year ago, I might have agreed that at least he was good to have around, but MURC is better off without someone who wallows in his prejudices.
                                “And, remember: there's no 'I' in 'irony'” ~ Merlin Mann

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