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  • Dr Mordrid
    Moderator
    • Apr 2001
    • 26592

    #1

    Dumb law brings out dumber people

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    Michigan mom abandons 13-year-old under Nebraska safe haven law

    Francis X. Donnelly / The Detroit News

    A Metro Detroit teen today became the second person from outside Nebraska abandoned in the state under Nebraska's safe-haven law.

    The mother of the 13-year-old Michigan boy drove to Omaha, Neb., to leave the child at a city hospital early this morning, a Nebraska official said.

    A unique Nebraska law that went into effect July 18 allows children as old as 18 to be abandoned at state-licensed hospitals without fear of prosecution.

    It wasn't known why the Michigan boy was left at the hospital. He was placed in an emergency shelter.

    Last week, a 14-year-old girl from Iowa was left at an Omaha hospital by her grandparents. She has since been returned to the family.

    Besides the two nonresidents, 16 children from Nebraska between the ages of 1 and 17 have been left at hospitals under the law. Several parents or guardians cited uncontrollable behavior as the reason for the abandonment.
    Dr. Mordrid
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  • az
    Moderator
    • Feb 2001
    • 9336

    #2
    Close this or I'm making it political.
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    • Dr Mordrid
      Moderator
      • Apr 2001
      • 26592

      #3
      WTF? We can't have an open discussion of stupid legislature tricks, a very bipartisan activity, or dump parents?
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      • rylan
        Super MURCer
        • Sep 1999
        • 2347

        #4
        Sounds to me like a retarded law that some parents are taking advantage of to ditch thsir kids because they can't handle it.
        Nice... so now you can have a baby and raise them until they become teenagers, and then dump them off on someone else. Great parenting.

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        • cjolley
          Super MURCer
          • Aug 1999
          • 7672

          #5
          It's not like there is a way to legislate good parenting.
          Sounds to me like a great law.
          The kids are well rid of those parents.
          Hopefully this will lead to the kids getting some much needed help.
          Chuck
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          • Umfriend
            Crabby Smurf
            • Mar 2001
            • 7308

            #6
            For now, I'm with cjolley.
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            • Dr Mordrid
              Moderator
              • Apr 2001
              • 26592

              #7
              The laws mistakes are;

              1. it should only apply to residents of that state. As it is it burdens Nebraska with the problems of other states.

              2. it applies to 'children' who are too old. These laws are usually applied only to babies under a year old.

              There are other ways for parents to give up custody of older children in every state.
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              • cjolley
                Super MURCer
                • Aug 1999
                • 7672

                #8
                Originally posted by Dr Mordrid View Post

                1. it should only apply to residents of that state. As it is it burdens Nebraska with the problems of other states.

                2. it applies to 'children' who are too old. These laws are usually applied only to babies under a year old.

                There are other ways for parents to give up custody of older children in every state.
                1, That's Nebraska's problem. Nice of them though...

                2, There's no reason Nebraska should be bound by the tradition set by other States. Frankly, I agree with Nebraska's age limit.

                3, Which these parents were too lazy to pursue. Screw them.


                PS It's pretty much impossible to keep this subject apolitical.
                Chuck
                秋音的爸爸

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                • TransformX
                  Super MURCer
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 4946

                  #9
                  The law, I'm okay with it.
                  The people, on the other hand...

                  I mean, when you leave a newborn in the hospital, he/she hardly knows anything.
                  When you leave a kid, or worse, a teenager, he/she knows just about *EVERYTHING* up to the point where with good legal help, they could sue your a**.
                  "For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism."

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                  • Mehen
                    Super Hamburglar
                    • May 2002
                    • 3395

                    #10
                    Stupid law imo.
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                    • VJ
                      Moderator
                      • Mar 2001
                      • 9733

                      #11
                      I'm with cjolley on this: conceptually, a law like this should be possible, if for no other reason than to protect the childeren from their parents.

                      We have a similar law, but as doc pointed out, the maximum allowed age is much lower.The current Nebrasca law allows for parents to give up (on) their kids if they are 10-14 years even! But perhaps it still beats the alternative for those kids...?

                      edit: but I can't understand the people that do this...

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                      • cjolley
                        Super MURCer
                        • Aug 1999
                        • 7672

                        #12
                        Originally posted by VJ View Post
                        a [good] law like this should be possible...
                        Always remember that the first law of making laws is the Law of Unintended Consequences.

                        It may be that it's easier for me to overlook the obvious flaws in the law because working in county government lets me see up close and personal how difficult it is to write a law that doesn't have bugs in it.


                        PS For some context I should point out that county governments in Oklahoma don't make ANY laws, we just have to follow an amazing number of complex ones, many of which have bugs in them.
                        Chuck
                        秋音的爸爸

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                        • Dr Mordrid
                          Moderator
                          • Apr 2001
                          • 26592

                          #13
                          Unfortunately we are saddled with a county "government" that can make laws, and does so stupidly on a regular basis - much to the consternation of the communities affected. Mostly a place for Dem back-benchers to wait for their big break.
                          Dr. Mordrid
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