Boston Marathon finish line bombings

[Evildead666]

Chechnya ..?

Though that was over years ago...

It gets stranger and stranger.

We'll get it all out in the open sooner or later...

[cjolley]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/19/us/massachusetts-bombers-profiles/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Well, may not actually have anything to do with Chechnya after all.

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The spokesman for Chechen President Ramzan Kadyrov said the brothers had not been connected with the Chechen Republic for many years, Russia's semi-official Interfax news agency reported Friday.

"According to preliminary information, coming from the relevant agencies, the Tsarnaev family moved many years ago out of Chechnya to another Russian region," press secretary Alvi Kamirov told Interfax. "After that they lived for some time in Kazakhstan, and from there went to the U.S. where the family members received a residence permit. Therefore the individuals concerned did not live as adults in Chechnya."

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[Dr Mordrid]

Deflection. Every indication from acquaintances and even an uncle is that they were radicalized islamists.

[cjolley]

Deflection. Every indication from acquaintances and even an uncle is that they were radicalized islamists.

Um. I don't think so: http://www.koco.com/Boston-bombing-s...w/-/index.html

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FBI and police began interviewing Tsarni and his family early Friday. In front of reporters, Tsarni pleaded with Dzhokhar Tsarnaev to turn himself in.
"Dzhokhar, if you're alive, turn yourself in and ask for forgiveness from the victims, from the injured, and from those who loved," he said.


When asked what he thought provoked the men, he said, "Being losers -- hatred to those who were able to settle themselves. These are the only reasons I can imagine. Anything else to do with religion or Islam -- it's a fraud. It's a fake. … They put that shame on the entire Chechyn ethnicity."

WBAL-TV reported that by hatred, Tsarni meant self-hatred not for the U.S. but for not being able to achieve what they wanted.


Tsarni said his family immediate arrived in the U.S. and settled in Maryland in 2005. He said his family has nothing to do with the family of the suspects.

"Of course we're ashamed. They're children of my brother, who had little influence on them, as much as I know, " he said. "I respect this country. I love this country. This country gives chances to everybody else to be treated as a human being."

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[TransformX]

Why only quote half?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/19/turn-yourself-in-and-ask-forgiveness-angry-uncle-bombing-suspect-demands/

"My son is a true angel," Anzor Tsarnaev told The Associated Press. "Dzhokhar is a second-year medical student in the U.S. He is such an intelligent boy. We expected him to come on holidays here."

Anzor Tsarnaev, who characterized his younger son as an intelligent and accomplished young man, told ABC News that he spoke to his sons by phone earlier this week. He said his sons reassured him, saying, "Everything is good, Daddy. Everything is very good."

"Give up. Give up. You have a bright future ahead of you,” Anzor Tsarneav said, according to ABC News. “Come home to Russia.”

He continued: "If they killed him, then all hell would break loose."

Doesn't sound like a loser to me, but looking around the net at his deceased elder brother, I see the colors of a true jihadist.


More:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/19/sister-bombing-suspects-says-have-no-idea-what-got-into-them/

Sister of bombing suspects says 'I have no idea what got into them
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Another person, who identified himself as the woman's husband, told the newspaper through a crack in the door that "I'm not Muslim and they didn't accept me so I never met them."

[Dr Mordrid]

Um. I don't think so:

http://www.koco.com/Boston-bombing-s...w/-/index.html

Toledo Blade has a Russian speaker who translated his social media page. He describes himself as an "Islamist."

http://m.toledoblade.com/local/2013/04/19/Suspect-s-social-media-page-appears-to-boast-of-the-bombing.html

Other reports on the news nets report other sources.

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and screams at the top of it's bloddy lungs "I'm a f'ing DUCK!!", the odds are it's a duck.

[cjolley]

Why only quote half?

Half of what? You are pointing to a quote of a different person (father) than I did (uncle) from a different article (fox) than I did ( wbal-tv a Maryland local tv station)

[cjolley]

[QUOTE=Dr Mordrid;692180]

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and screams at the top of it's bloddy lungs "I'm a f'ing DUCK!!", the odds are it's a duck.

A teenager who talks tough on the internet. Who would have thought?

Anyway. It makes a difference whether they are part of an organization or not.

Hopefully they will capture him alive so some of these questions might be answered.
I think executing McVeigh was a big mistake for exactly that reason.

[Dr Mordrid]

UH-60 Blackhawk helicopters reported over Watertown & Cambridge. Must be the National Guard. Wonder when they'll deploy the Apaches? /s

UH-60


A huge police presence outside their home, but they're being very cautious.

Fox played audio of the firefight where the older brother was killed. Sounded like a report from A'stan.

That part of Mass. is essentially under Martial Law without a declaration, and now police in Connecticut are involved.

FBI searching one of his sisters house in New Jersey. Took computers.

I hope they get him alive so they can get intel, but from his actions the odds of that are diminishing rapidly. This kid may try to find as big a group of souls as he can and blow up that vest.

[Dr Mordrid]

20-30 shots fired at #67 Franklin Street (Watertown), subject reported down inside a stored boat, robots sent in to check for explosives.

EDIT: subject is alive & moving. Surrounded. Standoff.

[Dr Mordrid]

SWAT moving back. Reports of a fire on the boat, and a big can of gas.

Robot on the move.

[cjolley]

got him alive

[Dr Mordrid]

Good job BPD, State Police, FBI!!

Bet they won't have to pay bar bills in Boston for quite some time

Now we can look forward to 5 years of Court TV

[Dr Mordrid]

Good job BPD, State Police, FBI!!

Crowd cheering like the Red Sox just shut out the Yankees.

Remember when you all watched 24 and you were thinking “how the f**k can all that sh*t happen in one day?

Bet they won't have to pay bar bills in Boston for quite some time

Now we can look forward to 5 years of Court TV

[UtwigMU]

Chechnya ..?

Though that was over years ago...

It gets stranger and stranger.

We'll get it all out in the open sooner or later...

It's not over. In 2010 I was sitting on a Moscow-Vienna plane next to a bearded Chechen guy. After asking him where is he from, I asked how is Checheniya now. He just showed me the front page of Russian newspaper with an article on some blast that went off in Grozny.

Also Chechenians consider themselves related to other Chechenians and even if they are far from home for a long time, they still feel connected. It's a strong community.