Why does linux SUCK ?

[leech]

nano rocks. For the record, Mandrake 9.0 kicks ass. And no ugly fonts, all nicely Anti-aliased and everthing. GUI iconfigurations are all there for the noobie. Though I still prefer the good ol' command line. And they make it pretty easy to compile your own kernel, though because of all the modules that are already selected for compile in the source that comes with it, it takes forever.... Still they have a nice setup, I just wish that they had packaged the new Gnomeicu with it. That's the first thing I did, was compile the Gnome2 one (through CVS) and then I compiled the Gaim through CVS as well, for MSN compatibility. They're both working great now. Unfortunately I can't get the Parhelia driver to work with it, like I did in Debian (see my other post) But as far as Newbie Distros, Mandrake is the one to go for. I tried SuSE and it had too many problems, and I also have tried Redhat in the past, and it's pretty good, just not as good as Mandrake.

Also Xandros linux should be out tomorrow (it's Debian based, so no RPM hell.) It looks to be extremely friendly to use (unfortunately it also looks a tad too much like windows 98) We'll have to see how that one looks.

Leech

P.S. As a side note, if you buy Mandrake 9.0 when it comes out, it'll install the nVidia drivers for you (at least as far as I was reading a thread on mandrakeforum.com) Also it installs Alsa 9.0rc2 out of the box.

[Six Of One]

Originally posted by Dogbert
When I do the ctrl_alt_backspace it just restarts X. The read me file isn't too noob oriented.

It has been said before, but being less annoying would help. So, if you are interested in getting help be friendly. I don't need you to run GNU/Linux.

Whatever, you can, but you don't need to "close" the X-Window-Server to get to a console. Ironically the "closing" of the X-Server needs a console ;-) Anyway, the simplest solution is probably to press CTRL+ALT+F1 or F2 or F3 up to 6. This will bring up one of the several virtual terminals on any Unix or GNU/Linux machine. There awaits you a login.

Another method would be to start a x-terminal. That's something like the MS-DOS Input Command under Windows. What kind of emulator you use differs but they are commonly known under the name X-Term or X-Terminal-Emulator.

This "knowledge" is found in about any basic tutorial or HOWTO. See here:

http://www.frankenlinux.com/guides/commands.html

http://jgo.local.net/LinuxGuide/linux-commands.html

http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/Command_Reference

For all your other HOWTO needs:

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/howtos.html

[Technoid]

Tommorow, I'm going to install Mandrake 9

Tried 8.2 a time ago on my laptop and liked it...
It autodetected everything in my laptop, even the Winmodem

[G400SG16mb]

Linux is primarily made by semi-autistic programming-savant computer techy types... they memorise and understand every tiny little conceivable technical detail of the operating system, how to configure it and repaire anything that goes wrong by editing script files or typing in long command-line strings.

Basically, it's an operating system made by and for the people who make it and are in on their scene. If you, the average user, can not edit config files from VI and Emacs, type in console commands, recompile your kernel and install rpms with dependencies forced, they are seldomly going to comprehend why.

Linux is great for doing tasks like running webservers, BaSh scripts and specialised high-end tasks, but as a desktop for the typical user, it is hopeless.

[WyWyWyWy]

Why do you need to close X?
Just run xterm or Konsole or whatever terminal program you have installed. To restart it ctrl-alt-backspace.

For fonts, see www.tldp.org for a Font De-Uglification (FDU) HOWTO.

I personally prefer RedHat over everything else, speaking of Linux distro.

And I agree BeOS is really great, but so is FreeBSD.

[leech]

As far as fonts go, from what I've heard RedHat 8.0 is the way to go. Though the fonts look fine with my Debian Unstable setup. Gnome 2 rocks.

Leech

[Six Of One]

Originally posted by G400SG16mb
Linux is primarily made by semi-autistic programming-savant computer techy types... they memorise and understand every tiny little conceivable technical detail of the operating system, how to configure it and repaire anything that goes wrong by editing script files or typing in long command-line strings.

Basically, it's an operating system made by and for the people who make it and are in on their scene. If you, the average user, can not edit config files from VI and Emacs, type in console commands, recompile your kernel and install rpms with dependencies forced, they are seldomly going to comprehend why.

Linux is great for doing tasks like running webservers, BaSh scripts and specialised high-end tasks, but as a desktop for the typical user, it is hopeless.

Haha, that's funny. I mean the part about semi-autistic, haha.

Maybe you will benefit from my outing: i am studying philosophy, political science and comparative religion, i am not at all what you call a "techy type". I am by all means an average user. I can't code anything, even if my life depends on it and i am still confused by most config or log files i encounter. Check my other posts, you will understand.

But i am using GNU/Linux, Debian (SID) flavor, because i desire to be independent from licensing politics. I switched from Windows 98 and it took me about two or three weeks to be able to use my computer again in a productive fashion. But now it works, as good as before and i gained some performance on the way to GNU/Linux. It's an alltogether different experience.

Whatever, i just realize the futility of my attempt... i don't need you to run GNU/Linux. Be free and use the OS of _your_ choice.

Regards

[leech]

My choice is also Debian (Sid) Where else can you just type in a simple command (apt-get install <package name>) and have it download and be installed for you in a matter of minutes/seconds (of course I also have a 1.5mbps DSL line...) utter convenience. I also can't code worth a shit (well, I've learned a bit of perl) But Linux has the BEST online community and are very helpful.

Leech

[UncleJoe]

If mandrake doesn't feel right then SuSe might ... I just installed suse 8.1 a couple hours ago and have to say that i'm impressed. Everythig works and this looks good. (a lot better thar mdk 9.0 IMHO)