Oh how I hate RH9

[leech]

I do not like it, I've never really liked RPM based distros, they always seem to have many problems.

I'd like to run Libranet, but I need to figure out why the new mtx drivers aren't working right. Well, they install fine, and work, but the GL part does not. And I might know why... but before I embark on re-installing it AGAIN, I'd like to see if this is why.....

Everytime I tried to install it, it would only copy over two libGL.so files., whereas RedHat 9 installs 4. I'm wondering if it's because there is a dev package that I am missing on Libranet? Any ideas? Perhaps the mesa one, but I'm not sure. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Leech

[The PIT]

Chuckle Linux for the masses Not.

[leech]

Actually RH 9 is VERY much for the masses. If it weren't for my Parhelia (it's not really for the masses either ) then it would have probably set up everything as a pretty decent desktop. But there are just so many things I don't like about RPM, that's why I'm a debian person. That and the extreme amount of software that is part of the debian archive. With Red Hat (and pretty much any RPM based distro) you're basically forced to install third party rpm's, which usually will screw up your system pretty well. Much like windows....

Leech

[The PIT]

Originally posted by leech
Actually RH 9 is VERY much for the masses. If it weren't for my Parhelia (it's not really for the masses either ) then it would have probably set up everything as a pretty decent desktop. But there are just so many things I don't like about RPM, that's why I'm a debian person. That and the extreme amount of software that is part of the debian archive. With Red Hat (and pretty much any RPM based distro) you're basically forced to install third party rpm's, which usually will screw up your system pretty well. Much like windows....

Leech

Sorry it isn't no where near. If you sat on our helpdesk you'd know why it isn't.

[leech]

Yeah, I've talked to people who do support for Win9x and I'm sure they have just as many problems as RH9 does. Of course that's kind of an interesting comparison, since I guess you could say that RH9 might be up to par with Win9x now as far as useability on the desktop.

I'd like to know actually some of the problems you've been having with it, and what sort of applications you're running under it. (perhaps RH9 isn't the distro for your needs, I know it wasn't for mine.) One wonderful thing about linux is that there are so many flavors of it. Some definitely are geared more towards particular uses than others.

Leech

[UtwigMU]

1st Win2k side by side with RH9, identical boxes (Duron 700/KT133A/256MB PC100/Rage pro)

Slow when loading mozilla or open office.

Otherwise it was my first Linux experience and I was able to browse the web, IRC, fire up word, log on, log off.

Nothing problematic, I'd say-

[Slougi]

Originally posted by UtwigMU
1st Win2k side by side with RH9, identical boxes (Duron 700/KT133A/256MB PC100/Rage pro)

Slow when loading mozilla or open office.

Otherwise it was my first Linux experience and I was able to browse the web, IRC, fire up word, log on, log off.

Nothing problematic, I'd say-

Well, mozilla and openoffice just are slow, even on Windows. I'd suggest looking into galeon as a web browser if using gnome, and using konqueror if you are using KDE. As far as office applications go, openoffice currently is propably the best bet, although I like the latest abiword betas a lot for word processing.

[Marshmallowman]

It can be a lot of work but compiling your linux stuff with your own CPU optimisations really does pay off performance wise..

But you got be careful, or you could screw stuff up royally...

Just tried gentoo...well kind of, it was to much like the bad old days of linux installs. Can't understand it really, for someone to do the whole painful linux installations like I used to have to do in the 1.3 kernel days it just madness. (back to the future, or am I just getting lazy?)

Well back to Mandrake 9.1 for me, its a nice easy install and I enjoy tweaking the feck out of it....goes from a sluggish bloated mass of program, to a lean mean bloated mass of programs, just love it.

If any one is interested, nvidia has finally released a full driver for the NForce 2 that includes the AGP driver for non NV video cards....

[Six Of One]

Originally posted by Marshmallowman
[B]It can be a lot of work but compiling your linux stuff with your own CPU optimisations really does pay off performance wise..

But you got be careful, or you could screw stuff up royally...

Just tried gentoo...well kind of, it was to much like the bad old days of linux installs. Can't understand it really, for someone to do the whole painful linux installations like I used to have to do in the 1.3 kernel days it just madness. (back to the future, or am I just getting lazy?)

All hail apt-build. http://packages.debian.org/testing/devel/apt-build.html
Only Sarge and up for now.

[leech]

Sweet! So have you tried this out yourself, how's it working out for you? I've got a rather fast system (well, at least I'd consider a 3.06ghz Pentium 4 with 512mb of RAM pretty fast) so maybe I'll start doing some of the packages that I use most

Leech

[thop]

repeat after me: debian good, red hat bad!

[leech]

Seems to me that it's pretty broken right now. I tried to apt-build --reinstall install galeon and it would crap out at the end of compiling.

make: *** [build-stamp] Error 1
Error while building galeon !
Sorry, couldn't find galeon or galeon is already installed
(or try to run `apt-get clean')

Galeon wasn't installed, I removed it before trying this. Bluefish worked great, that compiled without a hitch.

Then there was mozilla and evolution.

Mozilla said;

-----> Installing build dependencies (for mozilla) <-----
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
E: Build-Depends dependency for mozilla cannot be satisfied because no available versions of package libjpeg-dev can satisfy version requirements
Error while installing build dependencies, stopped.

and Evolution said the exact same about libpam-dev. libjpeg62-dev is installed and didn't check libpam-dev. But that's quite annoying...

Leech

[leech]

Originally posted by thop
repeat after me: debian good, red hat bad!

I love Debian

Leech

[Sasq]

Repeat after me Japan+Industry Standard = Red Hat
Sigh

[leech]

Yeah, then again United States+Industry Standard = Windows platform.

I've noticed throughout the years a trend to go with the shittiest products. (Think VHS vs. Betamax.) Some of the greatest technologies get passed by because some crappier version of the same idea takes off. Bloody annoying. Redhat is trying to change to the desktop, and that I think is where redhat should stay away from. Stick to the enterprise server side stuff, I say.

Leech