3Dmark2000 v1.1

[Electric Amish]

I get 2909 marks on the default bench.

System:
Athlon classic 700 @ 884 (105FSB x 8.5) 1/3 cache.
Alpha P7125 HS w/ 2 sunon 60mm fans
Abit KA7 mb w/ TY bios all RAM tweaks in BIOS
Mushkin PC133 SDRAM 256mb
Maxtor Diamondmax 40+ 7200rpm HD
AOpen 52x CD-ROM
Matrox G400 32mb SH, 6.21 drivers no OC
Aureal SQ2500 sound
Ovislink 10/100 NIC
Lucent Winmodem
Win98SE
Directx 8

amish

[The_Wrench]

I downloaded 3Dmark2000 yesterday and did a quick benchmark...
I've got a C566@850 and a G400 32mb(not max).
I wanted to see what actual difference overclocking the G400 actually makes using the new MTU 4.11.
I ran it once at 100%, 115% and then at 118%.

Here's what happened...

100% ---> 2841
115% ---> 3168
118% ---> *Crashed before it gave a value*

(I've fixed an old K6-300 CPU fan to the heatsink of the G400!)

[Barbarella]

hi all,

pIII 700@933 P3B-F Win98 latest drivers. G400 16 Mo MTU 4.1 SDRAM hyundai PC133 222

116% = 3479 (i usually play with 116)
120% = 3590 (no crash, but i'm not sure i could play Q3 10 hours with that setting )

It's time to buy a new GC. A 4% more on my G400 give me a 3.2% in the benchmark !

[Topha]

Hi

Athlon 750, 128 PC100 RAM, G400Max, Windows ME, ~3100 (+/- 30 points) in default benchmark, no overclocking

[roadie]

hi
i have the best score up to 660mhz. with my athlon classic 660 and g400max @165/220 my score is 3170. i have noticed that this beats alot of people with much higher processor speeds ie athlon 1000mhz. surely these people should be getting around 4000 points

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athlon classic 666
asus k7m @111fsb
128mb pc100 cas 222
g400max @ 165/220
win98se
pdesk 6.21

[Himself]

I should be getting a new video card in next week, so for the sake of keeping track this is probably the best I'll see out of my V3 2000. Texture scores omitted because they vary from mode to mode, see other threads if you want them.

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TEMPLATE
Display:
Type: Internal
Width: 1024
Height: 768
Depth: 16-Bit
Buffering: Triple
Z-Buffering: 16-Bit
Refresh Rate: VSync Off
Texture Format: 16-Bit

CPU Optimization: D3D Hardware T&L

Platform: Internal
3DMark Result: 3217 3D marks
CPU Speed: 234 CPU 3D marks
Game 1 - Helicopter - Low Detail: 65.8 FPS
Game 1 - Helicopter - Medium Detail: 46.2 FPS
Game 1 - Helicopter - High Detail: 20.7 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - Low Detail: 63.6 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - Medium Detail: 45.1 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - High Detail: 26.8 FPS
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing): 172.7 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing): 340.2 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 Light): 2770 KTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (4 Lights): 2441 KTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights): 2166 KTriangles/s
Bump Mapping (Emboss, 3-pass): 104.5 FPS
Bump Mapping (Emboss, 2-pass): 141.4 FPS


SYSTEM
Software Versions:
Windows Version Windows 4 A , Build 2222
DirectX Version 4.08.00.0400
Bios Version Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG
Bios Date 09/19/00

Memory:
Total Physical Memory 128MB
Free Physical Memory 74MB

PROCESSOR
CPU Information:
Processor Type AMD Duron(tm) Processor
Processor Speed 833MHz
Processor Caps Enhanced 3DNow!/MMX

Cache Memory:
L1 Cache Size 128KB
L2 Cache Size 64KB

DESKTOP
2D Display Adapter:
Name 3dfx Voodoo3
Driver Date 11-10-2000

Desktop Size and Color Depth:
Width 1600
Height 1200
Color Depth 16 bit

INTERNAL 3D CARD
Information:
Name Voodoo3 AGP
</font>

[Barbarella]

hi roadi,

well not exactly. For example if i use a 116% for my G400 and boost my P3 to a 7*140 MHz = 980 MHz, the score goes from 3479 to 3500. So a 5% boost on the procesor give me less than 1% boost in 3Dmark, While a 4% boost on my G400 give me a 3,2 % boost in the 3Dmark.

But sure you have a really good score

[Neomagic_Twist]

Using the new 6.33 drivers in Win98se, I get a score of 3288 on the default benchmark in 3Dmark2000. With the 6.10 drivers (I think), I got over 3300, but ah well, I like having the latest drivers, and 4X agp is working fine now, at last.

P3 450 @ 600 Golden Orb
Soyo 6VCA Apollo Pro 133A mobo
320MB PC133 CAS2
Matrox G400MAX DH 32MB @ 175/235Mhz
IBM 75GPX 45GB 7200rpm HD
WD 136AA 13.6GB 5400rpm HD
Soundblaster Live! 5.1
Hitachi 12x/40x DVD
2x Realtek 8139 NICs

[dZeus]

I got a new memory module (replaced my 128MB PC100 with a 128MB PC133 module, now totalling 256MB PC133 RAM) and my 3DMark scores now are much more consistent.

My Vanilla G400 overclocked to 120% (i.e. @G400MAX speed), I get 3439 in 3DMark2000, with the PD5.33 drivers in Win2k. G400 is running at 1x AGP.

P3-700@933MHz, Intel BX chipset (Abit BX6 r.2)

[DuRaNgO]

sorry, your lynx don't work so good

[Greebe]

I just luv them links!

[Himself]

The Madonion project manager actually shows these links but has different ones when you copy them.

Try these: Duron 833MHz, Radeon 32MB 200MHz, exact same config as my V3 2000 scores so it should be an interesting comparison.

Soft TCL: 1024x768x16
http://www.madonion.com/compare.shtml?1293246

Athlon TCL: 1024x768x16
http://www.madonion.com/compare.shtml?1293205

Hard TCL: 1024x768x16
http://www.madonion.com/compare.shtml?1293130

Hard TCL: 1024x768x32
http://www.madonion.com/compare.shtml?1293172

Hard TCL: FSAA 4x 1024x768x16
http://www.madonion.com/compare.shtml?1294799

Using WPCREDIT to set one 64dimm to 2 way interleave and both to 2 cycle timings:
http://www.madonion.com/compare.shtml?1295805

Older V3 2000 scores at 176MHz 1024x768x16

Hard TCL:
http://www.madonion.com/compare.shtml?1269787

Soft TCL:
http://www.madonion.com/compare.shtml?1269877

Athlon TCL:
http://www.madonion.com/compare.shtml?1269841

Summary:

<UL>[*]AGP 4X works, fast writes work on my KT133[*]OpenGL issues in Alice, lines along some polygons, random spurts of triangles showing up.[*]Converting games to use D3D from glide.[*]2D quality is the same as a V3 or G400 at 1600x1200x16.[*]Bump mapping is the same as G400 just faster.[*]FSAA 4X works well enough to use it at 800x600x16 and makes a difference in games like Deus Ex. AGP texturing has to be turned off in Deus Ex, way too slow.[*]Similar to live drivers, just install the basic drivers and you are ok, you get into trouble with the whole kit and kaboodle.[*]The new mscrt.dll is not as robust as the earlier ones.[*]V3 drivers set the standard, the ATI drivers are similar to the Matrox drivers when I had a G400.[*]Bought V3 for $70 CDN, sold it for $50[*]Bought Radeon for $265 CDN (no tax/$15 COD), same as I paid for my G400 32MB SH oem way way back when.[*]ATI driver install was hampered by bios settings for V3, since the V3 isn't AGP 4X and barely AGP at all.[*]2D speed of V3 seemed a tad faster than Radeon, noticed a lot more redrawing at first at 1600x1200x16. Change over issue probably.[*]AGP texturing is a no no unless you have gobs of ram, 128MB is not enough to avoid disk activity after exiting a game.[*]The emboss bump mapping of 3DMark2K comes a lot closer to EMBM when you have FSAA 4x enabled.[*]Most settings require a reboot to take effect.[/list]

Some Comments:

<UL>[*]Much higher scores in the low detail game tests. I attribute that to the higher fillrate/architecture.[*]Little difference in the medium detail game tests. I suspect the V3 drivers are just that much better.[*]10fps in the high detail tests is nothing to write home about, it's nice but I've seem P3/G400 scores as high, this is probably TCL related, but 26 vs 34 doesn't impress me.[*]Fillrate is naturally higher.[*]32 bit mode is infinitely faster. [*]FSAA actually works well, within limitations. It turns itself off at higher resolutions/bit depths and I'm not sure but it could turn itself on and off during game play as well. Deus Ex really needs FSAA, I much prefer 800x600x16 with FSAA 4X than 1280x1024x32, you could cut logs with the chick's legs otherwise. [*]I have EMBM back, still no use for it. [*]Lots of new features I doubt I'll ever use.[*]TCL seems to help with rotating torusi, not sure what else it's good for.[*]I get better texture scores, whatever they are good for, I find that games that support AGP texturing suck at it. I really don't like AGP.[*]My bios setting for fast writes is enabled, but PCIlist doesn't show it enabled.[*]The arc demo is overated, jerky and takes up way too much ram/swap file space.[*]Overall, it was a realistic upgrade from a V3, didn't expect a lot, didn't get any surprises.[/list]

PS. I can't do the FSB trick with 3DMark2K, I only have PC100 ram and my KT133 doesn't go over 104MHz. Besides which SoftFSB doesn't work for me and cheating would be pointless for me in figuring out what I actually bought.

Here is one with rendering disabled though:
http://www.madonion.com/compare.shtml?1302193




[This message has been edited by Himself (edited 02 February 2001).]

[Himself]

Tried the Radeon drivers under win2K, no issues whatsoever, ran around a bit in DuesEx, nary a hitch.

[Himself]

GDISPy5 from matrox:

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COLORINFO 1 27459 27459 PASS
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SETPALETTE 21 0 0 PASS
GETPALETTE 22 0 0 PASS
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STRETCHBLT 26 2262 2262 PASS
STRETCHDIBITS 27 1811 1811 PASS
SELECTBITMAP 28 9357 9357 PASS
BITMAPBITS 29 1367 1367 PASS
REENABLE 30 0 0 PASS
GAMMARAMP 31 0 0 PASS

PASS 32
FAIL 0
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[Himself]

Tried the Matrox Tech demo, read the log saying go buy a Matrox card, lame.

Radical Fish looks like a fish out of water it twitches so fast, quite funny.

That bumped earth demo with the lights around it runs at 150fps at 1600x1150x16.