Parhelia 3DMarks

[Ant]

OK here are the scores from the first round. 3DMark2001 SE (330) default settings, drivers 1.00.3.230, Win XP Pro, XP2000+. I'll follow up with a repeat using 16X FAA.

Parhelia mem = 275         core =     220     230     240
3DMark Score                          7132    7201    7289
Game 1 - Car Chase - Low Detail       108.3   106.8   108.3  fps
Game 1 - Car Chase - High Detail      40.9    40.9    41.0   fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - Low Detail       118.5   121.2   123.4  fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - High Detail      71.5    73.2    75.0   fps
Game 3 - Lobby - Low Detail           102.5   103.1   103.3  fps
Game 3 - Lobby - High Detail          47.5    47.7    47.7   fps
Game 4 – Nature                       32.0    32.8    33.4   fps
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing)          750.6   774.1   789.1  MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing)           2483.7  2517.6  2543.7 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 Light)          23.8    24.8    25.8   MTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights)         10.9    11.4    11.8   MTriangles/s
Environment Bump Mapping              131.3   133.0   134.6  fps
DOT3 Bump Mapping                     104.7   105.7   106.4  fps
Vertex Shader                         94.3    97.1    99.7   fps
Pixel Shader                          91.0    92.5    93.8   fps
Advanced Pixel Shader                 76.5    78.1    79.5   fps
Point Sprites                         14.0    14.2    14.3   MSprites/s


Parhelia mem = 305         core =     220     230     240
3DMark Score                          7254    7350    7419
Game 1 - Car Chase - Low Detail       108.0   108.8   106.9  fps
Game 1 - Car Chase - High Detail      41.1    41.1    40.5   fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - Low Detail       122.8   125.6   128.7  fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - High Detail      73.5    75.5    77.5   fps
Game 3 - Lobby - Low Detail           103.1   103.2   104.5  fps
Game 3 - Lobby - High Detail          47.7    47.8    47.8   fps
Game 4 – Nature                       33.4    34.3    35.1   fps
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing)          766.7   796.6   824.0  MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing)           2648.2  2703.5  2748.7 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 Light)          23.9    25.0    25.8   MTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights)         10.9    11.5    11.8   MTriangles/s
Environment Bump Mapping              136.3   138.2   140.2  fps
DOT3 Bump Mapping                     112.3   113.5   114.8  fps
Vertex Shader                         96.7    99.6    102.4  fps
Pixel Shader                          93.9    96.0    94.2   fps
Advanced Pixel Shader                 80.4    82.1    84.2   fps
Point Sprites                         15.1    15.3    15.5   MSprites/s

[Ant]

Initially with the core at 240 3DMark would randomly lock up. I added a case fan to my system and now it runs happily, although at 250 I don't get very far before it locks up, some more serious cooling needed for that.

[Voyager3D]

It dosn't look like it scales that good in 3DMark.. It hasn't changed as much as SharkMark did...

[Sinistral]

- Yeah thats what i was thinking too. Oh well, its just 3DMark . -

Now seeing 3DMark is out of the way, how bout an actuall game Ant? If you have time, and are willing. I think either, Quake 3, RTCW, JKII or MOH:AA(Medal of Honour) would be nice games to test with. -

Edit: And even America's Army might be a good game. If you happen to have the UT2003 Performance Test, that would be more then welcome . -

[P5ycho]

that is all q3, an old engine. isn't there anything out there with quad texturing support?

Also, serious sam would be nice to test fillrates. just start the game, config it, pull down the console and type 'benchmark' and the numbers will roll out. not a long test, not a lot of work.

[Haig]

Typing in benchmark didn't work for me. I had to type in \dem_bProfile=1

Map = Valley of the Jaguar
Desktop = 3072x768@32
Pdesk settings - default
Game settings = 1024x768, Quad texturing, tri-linear, left all else at default

Originally recorded = 43.6fps ave
Without excessive peaks = 44.0 fps ave
High Peak = 131.2 fps
Low Peak = 26.0 fps
High Sustained = 108.9 fps

Asus A7V333
512m PC2700 ddr 333
P bulk clocks
CD driver

Using bi linear and Quad gave a boost of 4 fps.

[dsp]

Haig,

I believe that you need to type benchmark() in Serious Sam /(SE) to get fill rate/triangle throughput

dsp

[P5ycho]

Sorry about that, i just typed bench and pressed Tab, so it auto completed.

Originally posted by dsp
Haig,

I believe that you need to type benchmark() in Serious Sam /(SE) to get fill rate/triangle throughput

dsp

[moreau]

Hello Haig

Nice to hear from you, Haig.

Been busy lately?

Dr. Moreau

[Haig]

Just a tad

I'll check out the fill rate later on tonite.

[moreau]

I hope it is a good kind of busy.

[ganyaik]

Ant: I haven't noticed that you opened a new thread. I was just waiting and waiting for results... Anyway thanx very much for posting these tables.
The not so big boost in 3dmark overall scores doesn't bother me too much as I don't know how much are the different test results in 3dmark weighted and summarized into the final score.
What I'd like to mention here:
-shaders' performance grows almost linearly with speed
-am I right that multitexture fillrate beats theoretical max of the r300(8x325=2600Mtexels/s)?
A doom3 result would be quite interesting to see.

[Reverend Maynard]

So OC'ing the momeory really does make a difference after all, even after the whole "we have a 256 bit bus so it doesn't matter" argument. Intersting.

[Ant]

OK here are the scores with 16X FAA enabled.

16X FAA

Parhelia mem = 275         core =     220     230     240
3DMark Score                          5617    5663    5738
Game 1 - Car Chase - Low Detail       79.7    80.0    83.2   fps
Game 1 - Car Chase - High Detail      39.9    40.2    39.6   fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - Low Detail       77.5    78.6    80.9   fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - High Detail      49.4    50.3    51.2   fps
Game 3 - Lobby - Low Detail           88.6    88.9    89.1   fps
Game 3 - Lobby - High Detail          45.7    45.7    46.0   fps
Game 4 - Nature                       22.9    23.3    23.6   fps
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing)          720.3   739.1   756.8  MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing)           2468.7  2503.8  2532.7 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 Light)          16.5    17.0    17.5   MTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights)         10.0    10.3    10.7   MTriangles/s
Environment Bump Mapping              78.7    79.1    79.5   fps
DOT3 Bump Mapping                     64.3    64.6    64.9   fps
Vertex Shader                         38.4    38.8    39.0   fps
Pixel Shader                          78.7    79.8    81.3   fps
Advanced Pixel Shader                 42.5    43.0    43.4   fps
Point Sprites                         7.4     7.4     7.4    MSprites/s


Parhelia mem = 305         core =     220     230     240
3DMark Score                          5845    5914    5987
Game 1 - Car Chase - Low Detail       84.3    87.3    88.1   fps
Game 1 - Car Chase - High Detail      39.9    40.4    40.0   fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - Low Detail       82.7    83.2    85.9   fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - High Detail      52.4    53.3    53.9   fps
Game 3 - Lobby - Low Detail           91.6    91.9    93.0   fps
Game 3 - Lobby - High Detail          46.3    46.3    46.6   fps
Game 4 - Nature                       24.5    24.5    25.3   fps
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing)          743.0   764.1   790.4  MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing)           2633.2  2733.9  2733.7 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 Light)          16.9    17.5    18.0   MTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights)         10.1    10.5    10.9   MTriangles/s
Environment Bump Mapping              84.3    87.7    85.5   fps
DOT3 Bump Mapping                     70.3    75.9    71.1   fps
Vertex Shader                         41.9    46.8    42.6   fps
Pixel Shader                          81.3    83.4    84.1   fps
Advanced Pixel Shader                 46.0    50.0    47.1   fps
Point Sprites                         8.2     8.2     8.2    MSprites/s

[TdB]

I notice in your screenshot that, in SS:EE, it says "matching * (unrecognized 3d accelerator)", and one of the strong points of the 3d-engine is that it can optimize settings for the 3d-accelerator.
so perhaps the settings isn´t the most optimized ones, does it even autodetect quadtexturing?
is there a difference in speed,normal and quality setting at all?
I think the next patch for serious sam, will give parhelia a HUUGE boost in performance.