G400 3dmark2001se score

[Mehen]

k, heres what i found out, which is probably why my score isnt as high as i thought it should be: 1. my cpu IS NOT a NW 2. my g400 is a REALLY old one and only runs at 2x AGP.

[Novdid]

That doesn't matter. The difference between the various AGP settings is almost nothing.

And the G400 scores generally scale well up to ~800MHz (P4 ~1100). Dont expect to see much difference in games if you would pair your G400 with a 2GHz NW and RDRAM. Offcourse most 2d apps would speed up with the faster CPU.

[Mehen]

yeah, i didnt think it would make that much of a difference, i just thought it should have gotton at least a little higher of a score than the other guys (maybe not with his ddr board), because i have a better cpu and more ram and such

[Mehen]

so i guess the bottom line is, if i want it faster, other than like 1fps more, i need a new vid card. *cries, i love my g400, i even have the hat and mug from shopmatrox

[YngwieM]

Why don't you try to increase your FSB? I guess that even a 1.6 Willa you can offer some more juice when overclocked to maybe 1.9-2.0 GHz...

That would increase a bit your memory bandwidth as well, wich in many games gives you some more FPS...

[Mehen]

hmm, i really was considering o/cing it, but since school started again (i have a ton of hard courses) i havent had much time for gaming. so i think ill just wait for either a really good game, where it would be really benificial to o/c it, or just save up for awhile and get myself a new vid card. i would perfer not to o/c my cpu, because i dont have a very steady income and dont want anything to happen to my cpu and have to replace it.

too bad it looks like i wouldnt be able to stay with matrox though, i dont think i would wanna spend the cash on a parhelia, besides then i would force myself to get a couple more monitors too

[YngwieM]

I think it's the most rational thing you could do - swith to "turbo mode" only when it becomes necessary...

And I think the same way about Parhelia... just too expensive for me for a graphics card... if it only could deliver the performance next to a Radeon 9700...

[Mehen]

well, right now i have about a max of 200 bucks (canadian) to spend on a vid card. too bad matrox doesnt offer any cheap cards (one that would actually be an improvement over my g400max anyways). right now im thinking along the lines of 8500le, but if i find a really good deal on a gforce4ti or even a gf3 it would be really good too. im almost actually sad that i started
researching/looking at all this video card craze thing thats going on lately, now i really want a new vid card because i realized how old mine was . (now there wont be a point of bringing my g400 mug and hat to lan parties *cries)

thanks for everyones input in my quest for a higher 3dmark score, if you have any suggestions for a vid card or anything else feel free to pm me.

[dsp]

|Mehen|,

Where can you pick up that 8500LE in town for under $200?

dsp

[Mehen]

well my plan was to show someone the price at pc97.com and try to get them to match it. i dont think they actually would, but even if they would get fairly close it would be a great deal. its 160 there. http://www.ncix.com/canada/productde...21a378cc406bad i was thinking future shop possibly, its 250 there, so if they could bring it down to even 200 it would be great. its a long shot but it might work.

also you could try other smaller computer places and see if they can match it. places like forestcomputers and such

[Mehen]

actually, i dont know about forest, somewhere else maybe, forest seems to be mainly nvidia. they might be able to bring one in though, maybe they'll even order it from www.pc97.com lol

[UtwigMU]

I got 1536 3DMarks with PII@467 512PC133 CAS2 and GF2MX(166/183).

The G400 16MB SH (using ATM) in the same rig scores 600 3DMarks.

IMO the G400 doesn't score well in 3Dmark compared to it's performance (GF2MX is maybe 0 - 30% faster, but not 150% faster in games as 3DMark seems to insdicate)

The 3D Mark is not representative in sub 2000 scores since it was designed to meausere current cards/hardware.

[Mehen]

that makes sense, because even when i had my g400 in my p3 500 it still out performed some people with gf2's that i know, not too mention looked liked a million times better.

[Mehen]

k, heres an update on my situation: i have not changed any hardware, but i managed to get 1694 on 1024x768. heres how: first off, im using xp, so i changed my desktop theme from the normal xp one to the classic windows one, i turned the desktop down to 640x480. also i changed textures and zbuffering down to 16, its different settings but hey, i can still say i got 1694 with 1024x768x32. then i turned off my computer, let it cool down for an hour, then turned it on and fired up 3dmark.

also, heres what my computer did when it had a gf3ti200 in it http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=3487497

[YngwieM]

For a cheap vid card upgrade, I'd recomend that 8500LE you posted. At least it has a nice 2D (for a Matrox user maybe the niciest, but indeed the best non-matrox 2D quality I've seen so far) and at least has a very good playability with virtually any game in 1024x768x32 and anisotropic filtering ON...

And your 3D Mark score will be between 7k-8k in your system...