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  • #16
    Radeon 9700 Pro

    10x7 no AA no AF
    FLY: 152
    BOT: 50

    10x7 4xAA 16xAF
    FLY: 95
    BOT: 48
    Ladies and gentlemen, take my advice, pull down your pants and slide on the ice.

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    • #17
      Dave ... quit it, you're making me itchy. How's that puppy working out for HDTV res'es and DVD playback?
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      • #18
        Yeah, I'd like to know about the DVD playback and the TVOut (is there a full Overscan?) as well

        (Sorry for being OT)
        But we named the *dog* Indiana...
        My System
        2nd System (not for Windows lovers )
        German ATI-forum

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        • #19
          My results:
          800x600 no AA no Aniso
          flyby 65.55
          botmatch 23.89

          1024x768 no AA no Aniso
          flyby 63.79
          botmatch 23.27

          Almost no difference between 800x600 and 1024x768
          But i think i need a new CPU ;-)
          ASUS P5B-E ;2GB G.Skill DDR2 Ram; C2D6420;lub 3D X1950pro ;SoundBlaster X-Fi;WinXP

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          • #20
            Dave ... maybe you could start a new thread in GHW to discuss the video aspects of your new graphics card ... please. I guess I should get back to AVS and see what they're saying about this.
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            • #21
              I figure this is the place to post it

              Heres some bench
              done on a radeon 8500 retail 64 meg
              Just to compare (Im still waiting to upgrade i didnt made my mind yet between P and a 9700)

              All these score are at 1024x768 32bit
              on a P4northwood@1.8

              noaa/nofsaa
              Flyby: 111
              Bot: 43

              16x aniso/nofsaa
              Flyby: 111
              Bot: 43
              no change at all which is surprising (suspicious ?)

              16x/aniso and fsaax2
              FB: 59..
              Bot:38

              16xaniso and 4x fsaa
              FB: 24
              bot: 19

              I tried to O/c my comp to 2.25 ghz for the fun of it

              noFsaa and no AF
              FB: 125
              bot: 54
              Athlon64 4800+
              Asus A8N deluxe
              2 gig munchkin ddr 500
              eVGA 7800 gtx 512 in SLI
              X-Fi Fatality
              HP w2207

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              • #22
                Hmmm, just for fun, tonite i'll try to cook up some V5 and G550 benches...
                if i get over 5fps i'll post them
                PC-1 Fractal Design Arc Mini R2, 3800X, Asus B450M-PRO mATX, 2x8GB B-die@3800C16, AMD Vega64, Seasonic 850W Gold, Black Ice Nemesis/Laing DDC/EKWB 240 Loop (VRM>CPU>GPU), Noctua Fans.
                Nas : i3/itx/2x4GB/8x4TB BTRFS/Raid6 (7 + Hotspare) Xpenology
                +++ : FSP Nano 800VA (Pi's+switch) + 1600VA (PC-1+Nas)

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                • #23
                  Without 16xFAA and AF @ 1024:
                  Flyby: 103,839737
                  Botmatch: 45,178829

                  With 16xFAA and AF @ 1024:
                  Flyby: 51,368389
                  Botmatch:34,060620

                  System:
                  Athlon XP 1666 Mhz @ 166 FSB
                  (5:2:1 tiler is used)
                  512MB-DDR-Ram @ 166 FSB
                  Parhelia - Bulk
                  Abit KX7
                  SB Live! 5.1

                  All Components are wirth the latest Drivers.
                  System:
                  P III-S 1.4@1.52
                  512 MB SDR-Ram
                  Gigabyte-6IEML
                  Matrox Parhelia

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                  • #24
                    Just to warn you before you go to all the hastle installing those cards. The demo won't run on any 3Dfx or Matrox G-series cards.
                    I should have bought an ATI.

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                    • #25
                      Out of curiosity, are all of you running with EAX enabled? I am.

                      Xortam, Indiana, I will tell you more about the 9700 features as I test them. I have looked at DVD already but to be honest, I don't watch DVD's with my computer. I have the DVD player sctrictly for running software apps that are supplied on DVDs. If you tell me things to look out for, I'll be more than happy to look at that aspect. Also, I will be comparing it to my Home Theatre set up since that is what I use to watch DVDs.

                      Dave
                      Ladies and gentlemen, take my advice, pull down your pants and slide on the ice.

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                      • #26
                        Dave ... I don't want to pollute this thread too much with this side issue. I guess you don't have enough experience with the video to start a new thread in GHW/SW. The AVS folks seemed to prefer the DVD playback on the 9000 over ATI's previous gens. I was wondering about Gamma, T&Rs, color saturation, etc. I usually check out skin pores and such on facial close-ups to check on clarity. You'd probably prefer the HTPC output over your home deck unless its a progressive scan player. Anyway ... I'll just monitor AVS to get more feedback on this aspect of your card.
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                        • #27
                          UT 2003 Demo
                          D3D

                          BENCHMARK.EXE

                          640X480
                          Flyby: 152.320267
                          Botmatch: 49.975044

                          800x600
                          Flyby: 152.435501
                          Botmatch: 49.959011

                          1024X768
                          Flyby: 151.934494
                          Botmatch: 49.901531

                          1280X960
                          Flyby: 142.084518
                          Botmatch: 49.754349

                          1600X1200
                          Flyby: 86.616623
                          Botmatch: 46.055515


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                          1600X1200

                          16x Ansio

                          Flyby: 56.752377
                          Botmatch:38.702225

                          6x AA

                          Flyby: 47.968014
                          Botmatch: 24.337336

                          16x Ansio & 6x AA

                          Flyby: 37.581856
                          Botmatch: 20.769403
                          C:\DOS
                          C:\DOS\RUN
                          \RUN\DOS\RUN

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                          • #28
                            This benchmark absolutely sucks. Not representive of real gameplay and it seems to overwrite UT2003.ini every time you run it with it's default settings. So no testing of Truform or other options in .ini.

                            We need a UT 2003 GUI benchmark and a real demo representive of gameplay.....oh and we need actualy gameplay in UT 2003 to give us an incentive to play it over UT.
                            C:\DOS
                            C:\DOS\RUN
                            \RUN\DOS\RUN

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                            • #29
                              Took a peek inside of benchmark.exe....

                              So, since benchmark.exe is using the same .ini the only difference in major cause of problems with benchmarking with benchmark.exe is inability to adjust graphics options (unless you change the source .INI in this case MAXDETAIL.INI), according to the readme the difference in BOT battle (slower CPU=stupider AI?), inability of crappier graphics hardware to take advantage of options enabled in MAXDETAIL.INI.


                              So we need a Benchmark prog that can detect the host vid card.
                              Support all graphics options of said graphics card without having to tweak host video card settings. (Also the benchmark could automagically set the video card settings to default if necessary).
                              Automagically gray out unavailable options for crappy video cards.


                              BENCHMARK.EXE information

                              file..ut2003.exe..open....

                              1024x768
                              1600x1200
                              1280x960
                              640x480
                              800x600

                              dm-asbestos?spectatoronly=true?numbots=12?quickstart= true -benchmark -seconds=77 -exec=..\Benchmark\Stuff\botmatchexec.txt ini=..\Benchmark\Stuff\MaxDetail.ini userini=..\Benchmark\Stuff\MaxDetailUser.ini -nosound -UPT -

                              dm-antalus?spectatoronly=true?numbots=12?quickstart=t rue -benchmark -seconds=77 -exec=..\Benchmark\Stuff\botmatchexec.txt ini=..\Benchmark\Stuff\MaxDetail.ini userini=..\Benchmark\Stuff\MaxDetailUser.ini -nosound -UPT -

                              dm-asbestos?game=engine.gameinfo -benchmark -seconds=70 -exec=..\Benchmark\Stuff\flybyexec.txt ini=..\Benchmark\Stuff\MaxDetail.ini userini=..\Benchmark\Stuff\MaxDetail.ini
                              User.ini -nosound -UPT -

                              dm-antalus?game=engine.gameinfo -benchmark -seconds=77 -exec=..\Benchmark\Stuff\flybyexec.txt ini=..\Benchmark\Stuff\MaxDetail.ini
                              userini=..\Benchmark\Stuff\MaxDetailUser.ini -nosound -UPT -




                              Files explanation

                              botmatchexec.txt
                              showhud - Removes HUD information. Text etc.etc.
                              Ship - removes demo version text


                              flybyexec.txt
                              causeevent flyby - Some sort of scripted flyby sequence?
                              Ship - removes demo version text



                              MaxDetail.ini - Benchmark.exe uses these for the UT2003.ini to see benchmark information

                              MaxDetailUser.ini - Used to set control information for the benchmark?
                              C:\DOS
                              C:\DOS\RUN
                              \RUN\DOS\RUN

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