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  • #31
    Originally posted by borat
    hmm and crank up the anti aliasing on the xabre and radeons and what do we get?parhelia bashing is not really deserved, i mean its perfectly playable with faa at high resolutions even in games which the drivers suck with.
    I agree that the digit-life guys paint a bad picture of the Parhelia, but you have to take into consideration that those boards with lesser AA modes costs 1/4 of the P...

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    • #32
      Originally posted by borat
      hmm and crank up the anti aliasing on the xabre and radeons and what do we get?parhelia bashing is not really deserved, i mean its perfectly playable with faa at high resolutions even in games which the drivers suck with.
      I dunno about the Xabre's, but the 9700 pro's AA isn't to be sniffed at. Admitedly the quality of the P.'s AA is superior to any other card for the home user, but the 9700 Pro's x4 AA isn't that far off IQ-wise AND it can get much higher FPS using AF+AA than the P. can.

      So yeah, against the ATI 9700 Pro, the P. bashing is deserved
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      • #33
        Originally posted by KeiFront
        Still getting a lot more than their score though:
        1600x1200 32 bit
        2945 frames, 80.2 seconds: 36.7 fps with FAA
        2945 frames, 52.8 seconds: 55.8 fps without FAA

        http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/...k-ath1600.html
        Hmm... thought as much

        Thanks KeiFront. Yours is a similar machine to their test bed too by the looks of things (isn't 2GHz about what the 2600+ runs at?)
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        • #34
          Originally posted by GNEP
          Yours is a similar machine to their test bed too by the looks of things (isn't 2GHz about what the 2600+ runs at?)
          Sorry for the confusing , my machine is running at 1.67Ghz (AMD XP1800+@2000+) with SDR ram, their processor is running at 2.13GHz (AMD XP 2600+) with DDR ram.

          Stupid ratings .
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          Second: Dual PIII 1GHz | 21" Monitor | G200MMS + Quadro 2 Pro | 512MB ECC SDRAM | SCSI
          Third: Apple G4 450Mhz | 21" Monitor | Radeon 8500 | 1,5Gb SDRAM | SCSI

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          • #35
            Ahh! And you've changed your sig to clarify now I see... So basically they should be getting a LOT more than they did in their "test"?
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            • #36
              Originally posted by GNEP
              Ahh! And you've changed your sig to clarify now I see...
              Yep, I changed my sig from XP 1800@2000 to XP 1800+@2000+ (stupid ratings )

              Originally posted by GNEP
              So basically they should be getting a LOT more than they did in their "test"?
              They certainly should got better scores than me.

              I also tested Ut2003, 1024x768, AntiAliasing (FAA) + Anisotropy (2X)
              Flyby: 50.043545 FPS
              Botmatch: 28.260815 FPS
              Last edited by KeiFront; 4 March 2003, 10:49.
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              Second: Dual PIII 1GHz | 21" Monitor | G200MMS + Quadro 2 Pro | 512MB ECC SDRAM | SCSI
              Third: Apple G4 450Mhz | 21" Monitor | Radeon 8500 | 1,5Gb SDRAM | SCSI

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              • #37
                Originally posted by UberLord
                I dunno about the Xabre's, but the 9700 pro's AA isn't to be sniffed at. Admitedly the quality of the P.'s AA is superior to any other card for the home user, but the 9700 Pro's x4 AA isn't that far off IQ-wise AND it can get much higher FPS using AF+AA than the P. can.

                So yeah, against the ATI 9700 Pro, the P. bashing is deserved
                yes the 9700 pro is faster and its quality is there with parhelia, but parhelia is perfectly playable at these settings, i never said that 9700 pro was not fasster than it, when you buy parhelia you are buying into triple head, image quality and decent gaming performance, couple this with the fact that it was realeased months before the 9700 and it isnt that bad, the reason it gets a bashing is because everyone tests it without faa on and say "ooohh the geforce/radeon can produce 30000 fps at this setting but the parhelia can only do 100" turn everything on and it runs silky smooth.if i was buying now i think id go radeon but im happy with parhelia so ill wait till its due its upgrade.
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                • #38
                  It's not just the results that are a bit low for the Parhelia, but the core speed! Only the GF3 has a lower core speed. How I'd love to see a Parhelia running at 350Mhz Core speed....

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by SteveC
                    It's not just the results that are a bit low for the Parhelia, but the core speed! Only the GF3 has a lower core speed. How I'd love to see a Parhelia running at 350Mhz Core speed....
                    very true, although if it came top of all the charts it could tun at 1mhz and no one would care.
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                    • #40
                      How do you run the benchmark on RTCW?
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                      • #41
                        First download the checkpoint demo (rtcw-checkpoint.zip) you can find it at: http://www.3dcenter.de/downloads/rtcw-checkpoint.php

                        Create a new directory in your RTCW "main" folder and call it "demos" e.g. "X:\Program Files\Return to Castle Wolfenstein\Main\demos"

                        Extract the checkpoint.dm_60 file into the "demos" folder

                        Now start RTCW multiplayer and bring up the console by hitting tilde key (`).

                        type /timedemo 1 (enter)
                        type /demo checkpoint (enter)

                        Let the demo run (it will take about a minute) and when it returns to the main menu hit tilde (`) again to see the framerate.
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                        Second: Dual PIII 1GHz | 21" Monitor | G200MMS + Quadro 2 Pro | 512MB ECC SDRAM | SCSI
                        Third: Apple G4 450Mhz | 21" Monitor | Radeon 8500 | 1,5Gb SDRAM | SCSI

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                        • #42
                          Thank you KeiFront,
                          I got 29.1 Fps @1280x1024x32 (no FSAA, no anisotrpic)
                          Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe (nForce2)>>AMD 2500+@ 3200+ (Barton)>>1.5 GB Ram (PC400)>>Leadtek GF 6800 12x6(385/850)>>Western Digital 120GB (WD1200JB) & Fujitsu 20Gb(MPF3204AT)>>Cambridge Audio azur 540A>>Razer Viper(Mouse)>>V7 V7S20PD 20.1 TFT Monitor>>NEC 3510A>>Lite-ON (40x10)>>Cherry CyMotion>>CanoScan N670U>>Epson Stylus Color 760>>Windows XP (SP2)


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                          • #43
                            Your're welcome. Pretty good score with that processor and mobo.
                            Main: Dual Xeon LV2.4Ghz@3.1Ghz | 3X21" | NVidia 6800 | 2Gb DDR | SCSI
                            Second: Dual PIII 1GHz | 21" Monitor | G200MMS + Quadro 2 Pro | 512MB ECC SDRAM | SCSI
                            Third: Apple G4 450Mhz | 21" Monitor | Radeon 8500 | 1,5Gb SDRAM | SCSI

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