Ulead MSP 6 Download

[dragmore]

http://mediarip.online.fr/ULEAD_MEDI..._PRO_v6.0-FCN/

Leech away!

[jeff b]

Well, boys and girls, here's the sad news right from the help screen in the version of MSP6 that you get from mediarip.online.fr:

"To record your finished project to a DV camcorder, you must first save it as a DV AVI file. You can then select a DV Recording option from the File: Export menu to record your file to a DV camcorder."

Gee, I can already do that with VideoStudio.

[Fred H]

Nice worked,dragmore!

[ted22]

I give, what are these files?
The program?

Dumb Ted

[jeff b]

...of course, the good news is that you get all those nice features that will now work with type 1 files, and that ever so wonderful CHEAP-O 1394 card. It's really quite nice, and I'm looking forward to being able to order my REAL upgrade from Ulead, despite the fact that the thing is sitting on my computer already...

Running on Win98SE (highly recommended) with all sorts of other crap loaded all over the place, and this installed as its own pgm group, without any interference to the existing 5.2 setup. I punished it as much as I could, doing the classic stuff that one would expect to make it cough, hiccup, or maybe even crash. But it's really turned into a more bulletproof baby, I'd say!

I've got device control in MSP vidcap, and captured the full 4gig filesize on it, 0 dropped frames, before it came up with an error, and asked me if I wanted to delete the file since it might be corrupted. Just say 'no'. Four gigabyte file, type 1, imports nicely into the timeline in VidEditor (unless you've got Adaptec DVSoft installed on the machine... once that's removed, it all works).

The solution to filesize limitation (just under 20 minutes of mini-DV) is to break longer projects up into under 4gig segments with fade out/fade in to black at beginning and end, then just butt them together on tape. The device control on export is really very nice and precise. Since mini-DV tapes are only an hour, anyway, there's still room in this arsenal for a S-VHS flying erase head copy deck, for all those projects over an hour.

It's almost everything I thought it would be, but the lack of cutlist project playback out to 1394 is a bit of a disappointment.

The minute the upgrade's available, I've got some dead president's faces comin' your way, Ulead!

Dragmore's link has the whole thing broken up into about thirty 2.5meg files that have to be unzipped, then unrar-ed. If you're working from a modem, plan on spending an entire 8 to 10 hour shift just downloading all of that! I grabbed it in about 45 minutes off the light pipe at work, and burnt the files onto a CD, and had it all back home in under an hour.

The help files have references to other interesting and, in some cases, important items that can be installed from the install disk which, of course, aren't there on this download, so purchasing the upgrade will have its benefits.

[Jerry Jones]

RE: Solution to file size limit

Could you line up a series of DV clips
wayyyy beyond the file size limitation
and simply render them using the MPEG-2
codec???

Wouldn't that let you create one giant
MPEG-2 file??? MPEG-2 isn't subject to
that .avi file size limit, AFAIK.

[fluggo99]

But Win98 is.

[Jerry Jones]

Well.. maybe I'm mixed up... but
Windows 98 doesn't care if the
MPEG-2 file is bigger than 4gb... right?

I mean... MPEG-2 is different from DV.

MPEG-2 is different from MJPEG .avi files.

MPEG-2 can be big, big, big... right?

[DouglasTexas]

I have found that Mpeg-2 format is very good for CD-R format 200 to 1 compression. You can't get that with avi or quicktime. So I would have to say, Yea its better. Been using Dazzle digital creator to capture for along time. Just found this page today and was very pleased to find Mediastudio Pro 6.0 download. Who ever managed to set that up thanks. Mpeg2 is smaller, example I captured over 3 hours of true mpeg2 video =1.864 GIG file.

[jeff b]

Jerry: the largest number you can have with thirty two bits is 4,294,967,296. What happens with VideoStudio, for instance, is that I can capture until the filesize gets to that number + 1, at which point Windows reports the filesize as 0 bytes, causing an error in the capture routine that says the file may be corrupted. The reason Windows reports 0 bytes is because 4,294,967,296 plus 1 in binary is 32 zeros with a 1 in front of it. That 33rd bit doesn't get seen.

The MPEG-2 options I found were exactly the same as with VideoStudio, in that the max datarate is about half that of mini-DV (around 1.8m/s). The datarates that I believe are being used in hdtv with MPEG-2 are a tad higher for 480p, and a lot higher for 1080i. It would be more to my liking if the MPEG-2 options for compression were not so limited. After all, the real limiting factor is the hard disk throughput rate on capture and playback, and 1.8 m/s is pretty stingy, especially when you can buy a 10 gig hard drive for $130 (USD) that can easily do 10m/s.

[DrMordrid]

Next option: Winternals NTFS for Win98 filesystem. I tried this on the RAID earlier today;

1. You have to have some NT4 SP3 or higher system files, either from an existing NT4 installation or by having them copied to a folder on your Win9x partition. Of course to format the drive to NTFS you should have NT4 installed. SP6 works great.

2. The write performance is about 85-90% of what a given device would produce using NTFS under NT4 due to the emulation overhead. A quick ATA33/66, SCSI or RIAD0 should be plenty for the vast majority of purposes, especially if you're using DV, MPEG-2 or MJPeg.

3. Reads, and therefore playbacks, are blistering fast. VERY nice for timeline cutlist playbacks.

4. Because NTFS has a file size limit in the terabyte range OpenDML enabled software can just do its thing. In short: no practical file size limit.

5. Of course this allows dualboot users to to access their files on the NTFS drive from BOTH sides.

6. Anyone know of a way to format NTFS drives without NT4 being installed? IF so you wouldn't even need it, assuming you had a source for the files ;-)

As it turns out Partition Magic is NOT the way to do this as it doesn't exactly duplicate the proper NTFS layout. First time it's failed me ;-((

Winternals NTFS for Win98: $49 at http://www.winternals.com

Dr. Mordrid


[This message has been edited by DrMordrid (edited 21 February 2000).]

[Jerry Jones]

Excellent research, Doc!

I don't pretend to be an expert in
this Windows file size limitation
topic... but I do remember skimming
through Dr. John McGowan's extensive
treatise.

Matrox and Microsoft--as I recall--both
jointly worked on the OpenDML extension
technology to break the traditional
2gb/4gb file size barrier.

I do know MediaStudio Pro 6 has some
built-in support for OpenDML. I'm not
sure what it means, however, from a
purely practical standpoint. Perhaps
it's now a 4gb limitation... but I keep
thinking... there's something more to
this...

...and I think Doc hit on it. The NTFS
is the key.

Anyway, I found Dr. McGowan's PDF file
referencing the OpenDML technology:

http://www.jmcgowan.com/odmlff2.pdf

McGowan's site is now located at:
http://www.rahul.net/jfm/index.html

[Fred H]

Now the http://mediarip.online.fr/ULEAD_MEDI..._PRO_v6.0-FCN/ is DOWN.
New hunt, dragmore? :-)

[jeff b]

Gee, didn't take long for THAT site to disappear, eh?

[Paul Clement]

WOULD YOU HAPPEN, DRAGMORE, TO HAVE THE WINDOWS SE PATCH? IT WOULD SURE BE USEFUL. IT SHOULD PREVENT THE FATAL ERRORS.

THANKS IN ADVANCE