better encoding??

[fluggo99]

Normally I'd suggest bypassing the BOB for audio, but I don't think your card has one... (Am I right, or just confused?) These symptoms usually surface when using PC-VCR and the break-out box that comes with some of the cards. PC-VCR gets confused really often, and messes up sound for everyone else.

Plugging your VCR straight into your soundcard should work fine, anyways. Is this what you're doing?

P.S.-- I didn't mean VHS when I wrote "tape drive." I meant a data backup drive. 15GB. Woohoo!

[Fred H]

Thank you, fluggo99.
Yes I understood that the PC VCR is unstable. On the other hand I found something in the VT 1.52's readme.txt file about it and the problems with playing MPEG with the MS MediaPlayer2. So, nothing more to do here.

I also found the following explanation in the MSP6's Gloss.hlp file, which confirm how right you are...

"...MPEG-2 is a much more flexible format and is capable of producing higher quality movies, but it is also only recommended for playback (and capture) on faster computers (350MHz and above). Although this is the format used in DVD movies, it is not possible at this time (Fall 1999) to record MPEG-2 files to a CD-R for playback on a stand-alone DVD player. By experimenting with data rates you should be able to create extremely high quality movies for playback on a PC with an appropriate MPEG-2 player software."



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[Fred H]

Aaah, yes about bypassing the BOB. What do you mean that you don't think my card has one? My card has a BOB, and the audio is going through the BOB.
To bypas the BOB, I consider, is better with an own switch box, easy to make with simple components from the "junk box" and good for mixing external audio. I may construct one, because I am already fighting with pluging different audio equipment to the sound card.

I really missunderstood your tape backups.


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[fluggo99]

Maybe it's the RRS's that don't have one... When you mentioned DualHead, I figured-- well-- okay, nevermind

Okay, so you have one. Skip it. Route audio around it, not through it. It has an internal switch that turns on and off the passage of audio through it (PC-VCR doesn't always set the switch correctly), and many have complained of drops in audio quality. That and the labels are confusing.

So best to skip it altogether where audio is concerned.

[Fred H]

Hi, fluggo99.
-Tried a temporary bypass of the audio around the BOB. It works great, also with MS MediaStudio2. Thanks for the tip.
I decided to build a switch box, maybe with some impedance matching or with a simple 2x2 way switch to use my stereo-radio/taperecorder etc and the VCR too.

-A word about the playeble CD-R video in DVD players, my knowlwges are on a min. level, but someon told me that there are programs which creates the right files. Such a program is "WINDVD". I never tried it, (I have no DVD player) maybe you did or you know it?

-Pioneer came out with som DVD burner, called DVR-1000 (price ~250000 Yen), still only available in Japan.

[pederbc]

Reg VCD:

A VCD compliant disc will have each MPEG movie in a separate track. The first track is a normal data track and track 2 -> 99 is for videos. It also allows for putting MPEG files in the data track but it will not be playable by a standalone player. When buying a DVD player, check to see wether it can play CD-R. I have a Philips 730 that plays VCD (CD-R) just fine but I have been unsuccessful reg miniDVD although they play fine on the PC. One thing to watch out for as well, is the fact that VCD tracks are stored in the same way as audio, ie no error correction. This causes the same problem copying them as with audio.

[Fred H]

pederbc,
is this why VCDs created with the MSP6 randomly changes my Marvel G400 second monitors (TV) color, H-sync etc, so I must restart the computer to reset the color?
I am in Dual Head, DVD max setting.

BTW, in single head I am unable to send MPEGS or VCDs to the VCR and to the TV through the VCR

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[dasher]

Please Ignore all below. Got it all working with dual head clone.

Des

Excuse me for butting in but you people really seem to know what it is all about. I am running a Marvel G400 and I have created clips in MSP 6 in every conceivable configuration (pal) adjusted pc-vcr to match and I can't record any to my vcr. pc-vcr is set to pal, output to video line out is selected. I have tried with dualhead disabled and dualhead multi display for nil result. I have also tried with msp print to tape both timeline and video clip. Nil result.

Any help prior to shooting myself is appreciated. (too late after and then it wont matter anyway)

TIA

Des

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[Fred H]

Hi, dasher,
The same problem here. I can only record .AVIs to VCR using the PC VCR.
Haig said somewhere at this Forum that switching in Dual head (Marvel G400, I mean) helps. It DOES, but do not select the Multidisplay.
Select the DualHead Clone->Use DualHead DVD Max
I can record/view MPEGs VCDs fine.
As I said, it works, BUT sometimes I've got strange side effects, like the red color dissapeared or sever H-sync failure, only on the TV set, not on my monitor. Maybe it was/is a hardware connection failure, it cames randomly forced me to reboot the computer.
I'm using the TV antenna input connected to VCR signal out and composite-SCART connection BW the BOB and VCR.
Let us know if it works for you

Ohhh, I'm using the MSP6 too.

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[pederbc]

I have the G400 Marvel (using PAL) and I select under properties, folder "Dualhead Folder":

Select: "Dualhead clone, DVDMax or Zoom"
Select: "Use DualheadDVDMax"

This works for me, everything that's played with Mediaplayer or DVDplayer is output to the BOB. The sound, however, doesn't always go through. But that's easy to bypass.

Reg sync and color disturbances, I've never had them. When making VCD's I always use AVI_IO, PICVIDEO codec, Panasonic MPEG and Adaptec VCD creator 3.5. This works fine for me, although this is not enough for transfering HI-8 movies.

[Fred H]

Yes, pederbc.
It's exactly what I mean with the dual head settings.
The color and sync disturbance came, I think, from playing with Matrox and Morgan codecs. It appears only with some files, not all of them, so it must be there.
Just descovered an other thing: the delay when scrubbing the timeline in the MSP6 dissapeared complettly by setting DualHead in the MSP6. I'm very happy with it.
-About the audio, please see my post, above here in this topic (08 March 2000).
I tried the bypass, but I descovered a strange thing without bypassing audio: the sound comes back, when I start/restart PC VCR in TV mode, then switch to File mode. Here I mean the same MPEG file. You can read avbout it in the Matrox Videotools (1.52) readme.txt file. Some chip is resetted by the MPEGs, or something, I dont know exactly what
I am just working to construct a bypass-switch box to be able to record audio, alternatelly from VCR or my stereo radio/taperecorder. By this I can feed out amplified souns to VCR. Without this only a sound editing program can do that, like Sound Forge 4.5 etc, keeping the video track unchanged.


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