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    MSP 6.5 NTSC-DVD at reduced data rate.

    In an attempt to encode 2hr 41 min into an MPEG2 that would fit on a 4.7GB DVD-R I changed the settings from 5500 VBR to 4000 VBR. After encoding a clip, it file won't play in WinDVD :-(

    The Ligos plugin for Media Player plays it, but the quality of this playback is not something I want to make a decision on. Any clues as to why WinDVD might not like it? WinDVD has played every other VCD, SVCD and MPEG2 encoding I've tried up to now, so I hesitate to burn a DVD-R with this file since WinDVD won't accept it. Unfortunately it gives no error messages :-(

    --wally.
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    I don't have MSP6(.5) and the DVD plug-in, but I'm assing it that creates a single file MPEG2 and only coverts it to a vob and splits it into 1mb segments before burning? If so then maybe it's the file size which makes WinDVD choke? I seem to remember having a problem with it before with files over 4gb (or maybe it was 2gb).

    Rob.

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    • #3
      I usually use the Matrox DVD player, which is a variant of Ravisents. No problems there.

      Dr. Mordrid
      Dr. Mordrid
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      An elephant is a mouse built to government specifications.

      I carry a gun because I can't throw a rock 1,250 fps

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      • #4
        Rob, I think you've got it. Files less than 2GB play, bigger doesn't.
        PowerDVD 2.55 plays files bigger than 2GB but seeking past 2GB is broke, files bigger than 4GB lock it up.

        Who writes this crap anyways?

        I never could get Cinemaster99 to play a file, only DVD disks. The Matrox DVD player that comes with my G450's broke all DVD playback -- I had to un-install it, WinDVD Ravisent Cinemaster99, and PowerDVD. I had only re-installed WinDVD since it played SVCD correctly -- I don't watch DVD's on my computer, so I'd not messed with any of them much until now.

        Another big dissapointment.

        --wally

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        • #5
          Are you playing the files from Win98/FAT32? If so then there's your reason.

          Win2K/NTFS should fix that as long as the player is OpenGL compliant.

          Dr. Mordrid
          Dr. Mordrid
          ----------------------------
          An elephant is a mouse built to government specifications.

          I carry a gun because I can't throw a rock 1,250 fps

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          • #6
            I only have NTFS.

            Seems the ligos MPEG2 media player plugin (codec) installed with MSP6.5 also is broke for >4GB MPEG2 files. Although this could be because I didn't install Media Player 7.1, Media Player 6.4 has no trouble with 23+ GB DV files so its not a file size issue per-se.


            What's the trick to getting Cinemaster99 to play an MPEG2 file from the hard drive?

            I now have WinDVD2.3, PowerDVD2.55, Cinemaster99, and the Ligos playback plugin from MSP6.5 installed. All seem ot superficially work, but none can play an MPEG2 file bigger than 4 GB! :-(

            It looks like my NTSC-DVD bitrate changes had nothing to do with it, its the file size being over 2GB causes problems for WinDVD2.3.

            --wally.

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            • #7
              Hard to tell what the difference is except that I have my editing stuff on a removable drive (Win98SE, Win2K and WinXP) and they are all fresh and fully updated. Betas have their own removable drive and get refreshed from bare, fresh install image files at every new beta build.

              Amazing how many problems go away when you do that.

              Dr. Mordrid
              Dr. Mordrid
              ----------------------------
              An elephant is a mouse built to government specifications.

              I carry a gun because I can't throw a rock 1,250 fps

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              • #8
                MSP6.5 was an update. If I have to reformat the hard drive and start over to make it work right I'd never would have bought it. If you think I'm PO'd about about having unwanted WME and Media Player 7.1 updates crammed down my throat, when it comes to reformating my hard drives and re-installing everything to make some stupid application program work -- well I need to logoff now and go oil my guns.

                This is a lame ass excuse for piss-poor coding. W2k allows you to code so your apps run with the libraries you developed against independent of what is installed or updated, before or after the install. Matrox DVD player is the worst thing I've yet installed on W2K in this regard. Win9x is crap, even the best application programmers can't fix it.

                If we don't demand better, we'll never get it. I've a life beyond re-formanting hard drives and re-installing software.

                As a programmer I've always claimed any "installation" beyond copying the code from the distribution meda to the hard drive and executing the top level program module is broken by design. (with the exception of device drivers -- the OS forces one to jump through all kinds of hoops, but if the code don't talk directly to the hardware and twiddle its bits, it ain't a device driver).

                I'm seriously looking at buying a Mac as my next computer, if a few more issues with OS X get fixed, I may never look back.

                --wally.

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