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  • Anyone tried this with a D8 camcorder?

    1) Connect cam to PC using 1394 cable
    2) Connect a source to cam's RCA jacks
    3) Play source material

    Will the source playing into the RCA jacks transfer over to the PC via the Firewire port?

    -Anthony
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  • #2
    Probably depends on wich camcorder you got!


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    • #3
      Definitely doesn't work on my bottom of the line Sony TR-7000 Digital8. Unless there is some trick I've not figured out.

      If they did this, who'd buy the DVMC box?

      --wally.

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      • #4
        I haven't gotten around to tweaking my TR7000 yet, but what I've read on the D8/DV related DV-In pages, it should be possible.

        Pertti

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        • #5
          Technoid: TRV103

          Pertti,

          How do you tweak a camcorder??

          Are these D8/DV related DV-In pages found in this forum or somewhere else?

          -Anthony
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          • E: Memorex 48x CD, Secondary on 1
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          • #6
            Anthony,

            "How do you tweak a camcorder??" - Easy, take it apart, play with whatever potentiometers you find inside, and see what happens

            The more parts are left over, when you finally put it back together, the better

            Here are some links to try, not sure if all of them are still alive, but at least some of them are.
            http://195.119.173.92/set1394/ http://12bar.virtualave.net/dv/ http://members.telecom.at/~erpar/DVin.htm http://www.cis.tu-graz.ac.at/wb/dvin/ http://perso.libertysurf.fr/dvin/ http://www.geocities.com/trv890/ http://lea.hamradio.si/~s51kq/LANC.HTM

            Pertti

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            • #7
              Sorry Pertti there no longer any pots in them. You tweak the Eeprom settings.

              A_BIT not without some form of tweaking. When the Camcorder is recording or monitoring the inputs, they are all set to in, DV and analog.
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              • #8
                mynx,

                Hey, there's no fun in doing it that way

                ...At least we Europeans get to take apart and butcher the remote controllers

                Pertti

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                • #9
                  Pertti

                  There would really be some fun if you could back-engineer the code in the EEPROM and rehash it


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                  • #10
                    Yeah, but the cunning swine have applied JPEG compression to the code. So each octet only has 7 bits.

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                    • #11
                      Pertti,

                      I followed some of your links and they indicate that it is possible to tweak the unit via software (as mynx said) to accomplish a DVMC thing with the D8.

                      I saw this on the first link...
                      • - Capturing analog video with PYRO and Sony D8 camcorders: must be DVin disabled temporary ( be enough change D-27-23 to D-27-22, do not store it), MSDV driver and MSP6 or VS4, no VS3. Plug-in analog sources to analog inputs on camcorder and firewire cable from PYRO to DV-in/out on camcorder, turn-on camcorder in Player mode and you are ready to capture. This is cheap and easy way to capture analog video to PC. More about sw for temporary disabling DVin is HERE )


                      I don't have the guts (I mean money in case I screw up) to try it. Maybe Grigory is willing. Are you out there Grigory?

                      -Anthony

                      [This message has been edited by A_BIT (edited 02 May 2000).]
                      Anthony
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                      • AGP Marvel-TV 8MB NTSC
                      • Turtle Beach Montego PCI sound card
                      • C: IBM 10.1, 5400, Primary on 1, System, Swap, Software
                      • D: IBM 13.5, 5400, Primary on 2, Dedicated to video
                      • E: Memorex 48x CD, Secondary on 1
                      • F: Yamaha CD-RW 2x2x8, Secondary on 2
                      • Win98, FAT32 on C: & D:
                      • MediaStudio Pro 5.2

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                      • #12
                        Sounds like good idea. Who will be first one to try!

                        CaN-o-PuS

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                        • #13
                          Yes, I am here, but...

                          My camcorder has factory enabled analog and DV inputs. I have record buttons on remote control and on camera panel. Although I have "E" model, it was made for E...astern PAL countries, so I suppose that the codes might be different from E...uropean PAL models. So, I prefer to wait until somebody from Russia can confirm that DV-in disabling works on D8 camcorders sold for Russian market.

                          Basically, I can capture full screen MJPEG with Picvideo codec directly from Canopus DV Raptor analog overlay inputs. So, I do not need to use camcorder as analog to DV convertor. Anyway, I have only 5-6 hours of analog footage on VHS-C and can record them at first to D8 tape, and then write to hard drive. This will take only 10-12 hours of camcorder life, not too much.
                          After this I can stay always digital, and in W2k instead of switching sometimes to 98.

                          Grigory

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