XP home and w2k NTFS 1394 drive?

[wkulecz]

Haven't sorted this out yet, but fair warning!

I have a 100GB WD in an ADS Pyro 1394 enclosure via an InClose ATA100 removable carrier. Formated NTFS and used on W2K without problems.

Moved it to the 1394 port on XP home and it appears XP corrupted it. Don't appear to have lost any data by dumb luck as it was mostly empty and had nothing important on it. W2k couldn't read it when I tried moving the 1394 drive back to where it came from!

Put the drive straight on the IDE bus via the carrier in another system and Chkdsk came up on boot! Appeared to work fine after chkdsk ran, data appears intact on casual inspection. I'm runing scan disk on it now and will attempt to sort out what happened.

This was my first attempt to use a 1394 drive on XP home. Had no trouble with the TI based 1394 port using my Canon ZR10 so I certainly wasn't expecting problems adding the 1394 drive!

This 1394 drive had been moved around half a dozen or more W2K systems without problems. Could just be coiincidence something whet wrong between using it on W2K and XP home, but maybe not!

I'm pretty sure I used this 1394 drive kit with a smaller drive on XP RC2 pro without problems after I disabled 1394 networking.

On XP home 1394 networking doesn't seem to want to stay disabled or un-installed.

--wally.

[wkulecz]

Corruption is not a fluke!

Scan disk on W2K found no problems. 30 min video file that was on the drive played back fine after putting it back in the 1394 Pyro Kit.

Tried using it again on XP home -- XP reports disk is corrupt! Moving back to W2K, disk is corrupt!!

Since I have nothing I need on it, I'll try letting XP format it and see what happens.

Beware of XP and 1394 100GB drives at this point!
My low opinion of XP has gotten lower than I though possible!

--wally.

[wkulecz]

Format fails under XP. I tried an old 8GB in the 1394 enclosure in case XP home was tripping up on the drive being 100GB. Format still failed.

I don't know if this is specific to my particular HP notebook, or HP in general, or XP at this point.

I've sent a problem report to HP, we'll see what good it does.

--wally.

[Dr Mordrid]

When we were doing the last RT-2x00 beta there was an issue with IEEE-1394 not working right in XP. We had to get an updated set of drivers from TI to fix it. These drivers were DVConnect334XP.

Dr. Mordrid

[wkulecz]

Anyone using XP home and ADS Pyro 1394 drive kit?

Thanks, any clue as to where I might find these TI 1394 updates for XP? A google search on: DVConnect334XP came up empty.

Windows update has none. HP seems clueless.

Before I bought the damn thing I made sure the 1394 port was using the "TI OHCI driver".

--wally.

[wkulecz]

HP tech admits problem with XP and 1394!

After chatting with an HP tech support person -- said he'd just learned of a problem with XP and 1394 that is being worked on.
He said I should look for updates in the HP driver download section, but offered no time frame.

Either he was lying to get rid of me, or XP is screwed up worse than I thought!

--wally.

[Dr Mordrid]

Wally,

My intent was to show that XP's IEEE-1394 support is still "evolving" and that some products/functions are in a state of flux. The *public* DVconnect updater won't even run in XP or ME.

This was something needed to get the RT working in XP so a special hotpatch was created. The need for such a patch also resulted in the recent WindowsXP patch for MSPro 6.5.

Basically M$ changed *just enough* in XP's IEEE-1394 drivers vs. Win2K to make life interesting. This included adding a load of new device support, and we all know what that can do to a driver....

Of course, with Microsoft there is always another issue to confuse matters: XP uses NTFS 5.1 while Win2K uses NTFS 5.0. IF XP does anything to the drive as an "enhancement" Win2K's IEEE-1394 HDD support might just choke on it.

Don't you just love it when M$ changes the rules on the fly?

Dr. Mordrid

[wkulecz]

Popped a generic TI 1394 controller into Dell XPS R400 desktop I have running XP Pro here at the office. No problems. 1394 drivers installed, 1394 networking installed (I was thinking 1394 networking might be causing problems as I had to disable it on RC2). Finds DV camcorder. Finds 1394 drive. Data reads and writes fine, no corruption. Its way to slow to do DV, but Movie Maker did a capture of some sort and produced a really crappy *.WMV without problems or me taking any time to try and learn it.


Looks like HP screwed the pooch on this one!
What really makes me mad is I went to great lengths to verify that the 1394 port was TI based and using the TI OHCI driver before buying it.

Despite my dislike for XP, I'm man enough to admit I see real benefits from it on a notebook (these would be unimportant to me on a desktop and would in no way justify putting up with WPA -- mainly moving amoung networks works better and hibernation so far has been 100% reliable. On W2K hibernation has been so buggy I've turned it off.) So I'm loathe to revert to W2K at this point. Everything but the 1394 drive seems to be working fine. The time spent installing everything was not negligable either! I've managed to remove most of the Fisher-Price vestiges, so the user interface is at least not obnoxious.

--wally.