MSP 6.5 on New Computer

[Ted222]

Doc (or who ever cares to answer),

I got my new P4-2gig computer running and it really rocks with the RT2500 and all. I encountered one little problem though.
The preview function works only with MSP 6.0 and not with MSP6.5 on the new system?? Any suggestions.

I would hate to go back to 6.5.

Preview works fine on my older P3-1000 G450 system with 6.5.

Both systems are running Win2k

thanks,

Ted

[Ted222]

(update to my thread)

It appears that lackluster performance is the best I can hope for on an RT2500 system from MSP - sooo - I will keep editing on my older system with the G450eTV and start learning to use the Adobe software.

Here's hoping for RT support on the next edition of MSP.

Ted

[Dr Mordrid]

RT-2x00 support for MSPro is not up to Ulead. It's up to MATROX.

Ulead issued a realtime software development kit (SDK) for video board makers starting with MSPro 6.0 and Matrox has had it since almost then. They just won't use it even though Ulead had already done a lot of the work. Main reasons:

1. those making the decisions are Premiere-a-holics.

2. those doing the programming know nothing else but Premiere.

Dr. Mordrid

[Ted222]

Too bad, MSP kicks some serious butt in the Video Editing Arena.

Matrox would most definitely increase sales of the RT2500 with it included over Adobe's Prem. program.

Seems like a "no-brainer" to me. But then, I am just another semi pro editor on a limited budget.

thanks,

Ted

[Dr Mordrid]

It doesn't make much more sense to those of us more in the loop, so don't feel too bad

Actually, it does make some sense:

Adobe gives a helluva discount for them to bundle their software with realtime cards.

MSPro, on the other hand, is actually a risk to realtime editing hardware platforms. This will become more apparent when MSPro 7 comes out later in the year.

Dr. Mordrid

[Ted222]

Doc,

I have noticed that MSP 6 or 6.5 run slowly and erratically on my RT2500 system. I notice you are using them both MSP and Premiere on the same system. Is MSP running ok for you? Will I need to change the Codec of the video to get it to run better?

thanks,

Ted

[wkulecz]

I don't have an RT2500, but Premiere uses type 2 AVI while MSP uses type 1 AVI. If you are using files in a format for Premiere they are type 2, which in my experience explains why MSP is less than stellar.

I find Vegas Video useful for gluing together pieces done partly in Premiere and partly in MSP as it seems to have no trouble mixing type 1 and type 2 files on the same timeline. I find its interface too "quirky" to use it full time, but since I picked it up cheap at Best Buy when they closed out version 2 before version 3 release, it was worth it as a utility for me.

I'll defer to Doc as to the most effective way to edit your RT2500 files in MSP as I've no way to know.

--wally.

[Dr Mordrid]

I don't have any problems running them on the same system. I use type1 on MSPro and type2 on the RT of course, but converting them isn't always necessary or that hard when it needs to be done.

Dr. Mordrid

[Ted222]

Ok Doc,

I have read up on Type 1 and Type 2 AVI/DV files and I think I understand the difference. Now the next question - which I am sure you have anticipated.

What software do you use for the conversion process?

(I see "Advanced DV File Converter" is a possibility. But I am not sure if there might be a quality loss using it)

heh heh...guess I am actually gonna hafta learn Premiere, bummer, I was hoping to use the RT to capture and output higher quality video....and....edit with my ol' pal MSP 6.5.

thanks,

Ted

[Dr Mordrid]

I generally use MSPro to convert using the RT's type 1&2 codecs because they are both OpenDML, but then are files converted using the Main Concept DV codecs and ADVFC.

The video isn't degraded that I can see, but then the vast majority of differences are in the audio track(s) and the differences between VfW and DirectShow etc.

Dr. Mordrid