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    I have been using a G400tv now for about 18months under 98se. I dont use the onboard hardware compression, I use huffyuv. The results I find are much better, besides the drivers I use don't seem to support hc.

    I now want to make the jump away from 98se. I can see from the posts in this group that XP is probably out of the question (a reel pity). If I go to Windows 2000 and stay with huffyuv will my system perform just as well? At the moment I can capture for hours on end in 704x576, huffyuv and not drop a single frame. The system is the following.

    Win98se
    Intel P3 600 slot 1
    256 mb ram
    Abit BE6 2 r2 (raid with Highpoint 370)
    G400tv
    2 x 7200 rpm Seagate 40gb as raid 0
    1 x 7200 rpm (boot) IBM Deskstar 40gb
    Yamaha CRW 2100s scsi
    Teac CD-540E
    Adaptec AHA 2940 U/UW
    Creative AWE 64 gold
    Dlink 10/100 network card


    If I make the jump to Windows 2000, will the above system perform as good as it does now at 704x576 with huffyuv? You may say "Why do you want to move, if it works ok", well.. I want to get away finnaly from Windows 98. But ONLY if I have a real good chance of it workin ok. Can anyone comment on the possible outcome please?


    Cheers to all

  • #2
    Well, why not suck it and see? Just install W2k as a second OS (dual boot) and try everything out. If everything works so much the better for you. If not, you have lost nothing.
    Brian (the devil incarnate)

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    • #3
      If not, you have lost nothing.
      With the exception of money spent for Billy-Boy's OS.

      I am using W2k without problems on MY system. I am using the PicVideo Codec without problems.
      Perspective cannot be taught. It must be learned.

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      • #4
        Hey,
        I have a dual boot win98/2000 system, but I've always used the marvel in 98 with mjpg capture. Is the huffyuv capture that good in win 2000? I kept using the marvel in win98 because it worked without fuss.

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        • #5
          With the exception of money spent for Billy-Boy's OS.

          Yeah, you're right

          Let's not enrich the so-and-so unnecessarily.

          However, and I'm the first to decry pirating, when I tried W2k, I borrowed an installation CD-ROM before I went out to buy one. I had the borrowed one on my machine for a couple of weeks. OK, it's strictly illegal, I know, but I considered it justified on the grounds that there is no refund if you buy and it doesn't do what you want it to. One may also argue the fact that MS offers no guarantee that an OS (or any other software) works or not is equally illicit under common law.
          Brian (the devil incarnate)

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          • #6
            I'm with you all the way on the point of trying Brian! I have an In-Law with WAY too much money that constantly falls under the "Upgrade-itis" spell.

            I always try to tell him to read up before taking the plunge on new stuff (Hardware as well as software), but the damn fool feels it is his personal resonsibility to stimulate the economy (Yah right) and go get the latest and the (This guy just doesn't get the term "Bleeding Edge") "greatest".

            In spite of my warnings ( I really do try and warn him), I am always able to try a multitude of OS's, Office, and graphic programs. Now just to clarify, I don't keep the stuff on my system, I test it, delete it, and either buy my own or thank the powers that be for my In-Law's "Illness".

            I tell yah if this guy ever get's the bug for NLE on the computer,,,,,,,oooooh,,,,,,ahhhhhh,,,,,,,,,
            Perspective cannot be taught. It must be learned.

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            • #7
              tnx for the replies guys, dont 'really' know what to do. It has taken me a long time to get this PC right and stable. I just hate Windows 98. As I say I don't want to use the hardware compression. I capture at 704x576 with huffyuv, de-interlace,resize, and mpeg. A very long process but...... in my eyes very well worth the effort. The differance between that and mjpeg capture has to be seen to be believed

              This is not my main PC, I have an Athlon 1.4 with a GF3 ti200 video in/outrunning under XP, but that's another story. I like this G400 especially the video out quality. I could dual boot, and as Brian say's try it, but I have had dual boot OS's before and its a real p.i.t.a. Sooner or later somthing goes wrong big time (for me). I would however like to keep this machine solely for capture, and if possible make the jump to 2k. I just thought I'd ask to see if anyone was successful. There are so many combinations of drivers and vtools, its confusing.

              Oh well tnx again for your input, maybe I just may be better off staying with 98se. Better the devil you know than the one you don't as they say..... Cheers to all.

              Dave Brown.

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              • #8
                If you are not going to capture Mjeg you should swith to XP.
                I have no problems capturing with huffyuv and the tv-out settings works fine also.

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                • #9
                  OK Bios, well basically that is what I wanted to know. I dont capture in MJPEG, its fine for back out to tape, but I dont think its much good if you edit it. Please take a look at the spec of the P3 600 in my post above. I would be appreciative of your recomendations of driver versions for the G400 TV to use under XP.

                  I was totally under the impression that this card would not function under XP at all. Please also detail any/other things I might need for operation under XP.

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                  • #10
                    I am using my Marvel G400TV in XP with PowerDesk 5.39 and VT 2.04 patched and reghacked, than capture PIC Video MJPEG.
                    To keep a very long story about how to install, look at this:



                    and this one:



                    I have some problems in MSP6.0/6.5 to send MJPEG from timeline or preview the PIC Video from MSP to TV, but the rendered files are well playable on TV.

                    I don’t know why, but the PD 5.82/VT2.10 give me problems and I stay with 5.39/2.04.

                    Fred H
                    Last edited by Fred H; 28 April 2002, 15:15.
                    It ain't over 'til the fat lady sings...
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                    • #11
                      OK Cheers Fred H for those links, Super. I now have a working G400TV able to capture Under Virtualdub with huffyuv, and the TV is working (not so sure if I'm receiving ALL the stations tho) AND even teletext. All under XP. I did not apply any hacks or fixes. I could not believe it!!! I am stuned !

                      I installed video tools 2.10 (vt_210a.exe)
                      I installed drivers 5.82 (w2k_582.exe)

                      for XP as a g450e

                      it all seems to work ok. One other thing. I did not have a correct aspi layer. I dont know if this is important in XP or not. So I installed it anyway. Aspi layer is now at 4.6 (1021).

                      Once again....many thanks to all who replied with your help.

                      Madhouse 28

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