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  • Pinnacle DV500 Torture Rack

    A sister agency's IT manager called me
    yesterday, advising me he had purchased a
    Pinnacle DV500 board.

    In short, he couldn't get it to work.

    He heard I was into digital video, so he asked me for help.

    As an extremely satisifed Canopus DV Raptor user with DV Raptors on three machines:

    a) home machine (Windows 98)
    b) work machine (Windows 98)
    c) co-workers machine (NT 4.0)

    With the Canopus DV Raptor, we've had absolutely no troubles.

    So I hung up the phone, dreading what might
    await.

    They're running NT 4, Service Pack 5 on a
    450 Mhz Pentium III box.

    The video display card is a Diamond S3 Savage 4.

    They have plenty of hard drive space.

    They have almost 200mb of ram.

    NT is configured to NTFS.

    Their DV camcorder is an old JVC with no
    Firewire output.

    So they captured a huge clip - via S-Video.

    The problem is in relation to Premiere.

    When you adjust Project Settings at the beginning of a Premiere project, you have
    the option of selecting:

    a) Video for Windows
    b) QuickTime
    c) Pinnacle

    Premiere refuses to open when we select
    the Pinnacle option.

    We set all of the project settings to match
    those of the video captured. No go.

    Premiere won't open. The animated "countdown" icon just goes and
    goes and goes and goes and goes and goes.

    But Premiere refuses to open.

    When we select "Video for Windows," it's a
    different story.

    Premiere opens, but it still doesn't work
    right.

    When I double-clicked a timeline clip,
    the clip would not appear in the SOURCE
    monitor Window.

    I looked in NT's scant information about IRQs.

    Apparently, DV500 is sharing IRQs with two
    instances of what NT identifies as "Istone."

    I succeeded in getting Premiere upgraded to 5.1c. But no change.

    I'm wondering if the only solution might be to pull the PCI cards and re-install them one at a time so that the IRQs get re-configured.

    I visited the Pinnacle DV 500 support forum and I read all of the posts of problems and I was struck by how different that support forum is from the support forum of the Canopus DV Raptor/Rex/Amber users.

    Anybody have any ideas?

    I know Pinnacle's NT driver is in beta and is not supported.

    Maybe they need to check that driver version.

    All I can say is - it's a mess.

    Anybody have any suggestions?

    (I'm just glad our agency went Canopus.)

  • #2
    The first thing to do whenever you are having a Premiere problem is to delete the Prem50.prf file. This will force Premiere to re-scan all the plugins and generate a new Prem50.prf file.

    Dr. Mordrid

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    • #3
      That's an excellent tip.

      Unfortunately, we tried that.

      Still no go.

      My best guess so far is

      a) IRQ sharing
      b) incompatible IBM mobo?
      c) flaky NT driver
      d) defective DV 500 board

      ...I feel badly for them as their deadline is next week no less. They won't make it.

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      • #4
        I'm voting for the bad DV500 or IBM mainboard in that order.

        If you look in the newsgroups you'll find a ton of DV500 users who have returned them after such incidents. Makes you wonder about Pinnacles quality control system.

        As far as the IBM mainboard goes I went through hell with a couple of IBM brand boards a few years ago. Never again.

        Dr. Mordrid

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        • #5
          You may be right, Doc.

          I think I'm going to simply e-mail these friends of mine tomorrow morning and politely withdraw from their nightmare.

          I just don't have time.

          I met their NT-guy and told him that if the computer were mine... I would pull every PCI card and re-load them one at a time to get that IRQ situation straightened out.

          His facial expression definitely communicated a distinct unwillingness to go through that labor-intensive process... particularly when I mentioned to him that it might not even work - due to the possibility that his IBM-corporate-level machine (which is very similar to a Compaq DeskPro) may have an incompatible motherboard.

          I think they're going to try to get by editing in Video for Windows mode - in spite of the fact Premiere's windows aren't working correctly.

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          • #6
            There's no IRQ sharing going on, after all.

            This from Gary Bettan's DV500 Review at
            http://www.videoguys.com

            >>The DV500 will show
            >>up in device manager
            >>3 times. Twice as
            >>lstone and once as
            >>pin1394. These will
            >>all be on the same
            >>IRQ. This is not a
            >>problem and do not
            >>let it worry you.

            So:

            1. We've successfully upgraded to Premiere 5.1c.

            2. We've determined there's no IRQ sharing.

            Next, they should check the NT driver issue.

            If that doesn't work - then I would guess the mobo problem.

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            • #7
              Yup. It could very well be a whacked out mobo, but lets not forget Pinnacle could also be the problem.

              That said those mobo issues I had were very tough to track down. I finally locked it down by the replacement method. When the IBM board was in nothing worked. When it was replaced by an Asus P2B everything worked. Kinda obvious

              Dr. Mordrid

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