which video editing card?

[gt40]

just tossed out my old g400 and rr-g and purchased a parhelia, now I need a video editing card to replace the rr-g. I am mainly a hobbiest editing home videos, but am very conscious of picture quality. I have looked at the rt.x10, but it reccommends a p4 2.2ghz processor and i currently have a p4 1.6. The rt2500 has just dropped in price and is starting to look attractive.
Just looking at input as to why one card may be better than the other and why. Also, are there any other cards outside of matrox to consider.

I appreciate any opinions, thank you.

current system specs:

asus p4te, p4 1.6 ghz
512 mg ram
40g harddrives (2)
matrox parhelia
sb audigy
sony 17seII
everything else-inconsequential

[K6-III]

Actually, their minimum spec is a P4 1.8....just OC a bit and you're there and beyond...

[Dr Mordrid]

Personally I'd go for the RT.X10 over the RT-2500 unless MPEG-2 editing is important to you (it shouldn't be).

Dr. Mordrid

[gt40]

after some careful reading and reviewing
i have decided on the rt.x10

thanks again!

[gt40]

ok now I have a prob.
apparently the s/w won't even load unless your processor is 1.8 or above (p3 or p4).
I have already ordered the card and tryed to o/c and the best I can do is about 1749 (pci bus is not independantly adjustable - and so peripherals lock up at about 110 mhz fsb)

any way to get around this??
don't really want to buy a new processor, but a p4 1.6 must be better than a p3 1.8??!!

[K6-III]

Do you have any SCSI cards in the system???

[gt40]

yep, adaptec 19160 ultra 160
, however seems like ide dies at 112 fsb (boots, but can't find win2k start up files)

[K6-III]

Usually the SCSI cards go first.....unless you're running a WD HD you should be OK at much higher PCI speeds...

[gt40]

hit the nail on the head - 2 wd 40gig drives


looks like I'm gonna have to upgrade to a 2.0g p4

BWAAAA!

[K6-III]

Make sure to get the 2.0a, not the 2.0....

[gt40]

without question!

[IM_Riktar]

What type of motherboard are you using? On my Asus P4B266-C I had problems Oc'ing my 1.6A until I went up to 133Mhz busspeed. This worked without any problems since the PCI bus stayed at 33Mhz (In spec for the PCI cards) and the system is a rock at 2.133Mhz.

Bear in mind that anything over 100Mhz will increase the busspeed since the divider for the peripherals is at 1/3 until you hit 133Mhz. At that speed the divider goes to 1/4. That shoud resolve any problems you may have.

Just a thought.

Rick

[gt40]

Asus p4te, unfortunetly the pci speed is completely dependant on the bus speed.
however I did find that the x tools will install at 1.7 ghz, so a simple overclocking to 108 mhz bus speed did the trick (1.72 Ghz cpu).
now if I could only get the analog capture to work!

[IM_Riktar]

I am surprised that a company like Asus wouldn't include some way to change the PCI/Memory divider in the bios settings.

Since the Mobo is capable of going to 133Mhz busspeed you would think that they would have either had it automatically set, or have give you the option in setting it manually via jumpers or with a bios setting.

Bummer!

[funky-d-munky]

"any way to get around this??
don't really want to buy a new processor, but a p4 1.6 must be better than a p3 1.8??!!"

Funny as it sounds, No.
A p3 per clock cycle is far faster. Limitations of getting a p3 core to 1.5gigs+ is the problem, as well as some memory bandwidth issues at that speed.
The P4 was designed for one thing, running at high mhz because the unwashed masses will buy whatever has the highest number and not what actually does the most per mhz.