Tsunami MPEG b12 English patch posted

[Dr Mordrid]

Get it and (approximately) translated readme.txt and changes.txt files at;

http://www.jamsoft.com/tmpgenc .

Nero accepts the SVCD files without complaint.

Dr. Mordrid



[This message has been edited by Dr Mordrid (edited 31 July 2000).]

[dchip]

I finally got this and tried it this evening. It is nice. Haven't done a side-by-side comparison with Panasonic yet, but my eye tells me this encoder might just have a slight edge on Panasonic, or results from the two will prove to be so close in quality that I can't see any difference. More comparison to follow.

[Dr Mordrid]

The only weakness I've found is that it doesn't work with AVI_IO ver. 3.0. I sent Markus the info so hopefully this will be addressed shortly.

Otherwise I've been able to create some excellent looking MPEG's of all types with this version.

Dr. Mordrid

[dchip]

Mine look good too. I'm possibly seeing that this encoder knows when to make gamma adjustments in the processing. I just looked at one I did in Panasonic of an indoor scene and the peoples faces don't look as bright as they do with Tsunami on a similar clip from the same day. Perhaps I am just seeing additional sharpness, which would really give this one the edge. I am going to do an identical-clip comparison this weekend.

Are you saying Tsunami will not accept as input an AVI captured with AVI-IO, or is there some sort of integration capability that AVI-IO normally has that doesn't work with Tsunami? BTW, the price of Tsunami gives it the edge, regardless. This encoder may be the reason Panasonic gave theirs a facelift recently.

[dchip]

Just did an identical clip MPEG-1 encode with Tsunami and Panasonic encoders and suprisingly, I think Tsunami's results look a touch better than Panasonic. It's very, very close but the Tsunami's clip does look brighter and sharper. Panasonic has a softer look to it. One really has to look close and examine edges to see the difference in sharpness but the difference in brightness is easier to see. The freebie, Tsunami, is a nice piece of work.

I will still hang on to my Panasonic encoder. It's a very good encoder and in the latest release they've added RGB sliders and a very quick way to see what color adjusted output will look like. When you shoot that occasional video on which you fail to compensate for some funky color-temperature flourescent lighting, perhaps Panasonic can be a simple way of saving the day without you having to put your clips through several processes.

Disclaimer: please bear in mind that I'm by no means an expert and my corrected vision is on the bad side of 20/20, so regard the comparison of output from these two encoders as just my amatuer observations. Your tastes in MPEG-1 may differ and trying both products for yourself is suggested.

[Dr Mordrid]

When talking image quality perhaps we should also post our eye test results

I'll be second: 20/15 in both eyes & night vision like an owl.

This drives the family opthalmologist straight out of his mind, especially since I'm 51 and it hasn't changed in the 20 years he's been seeing me ....

Dr. Mordrid


[This message has been edited by Dr Mordrid (edited 06 August 2000).]

[dchip]

Yeah, that's an idea. Half-blind video editors like me will be revealed.

I sometimes wonder what incredible vision like yours, that remains that stable into the upper years can be attributed to. I jokingly think about carrot consumption. I suspect nutrition might play a small role, but ultimately it's got to be heredity.

I had uncorrected 20/20 for quite a bit of my life. When I was about 30 it began to change and has been sliding ever since. At my last exam, bifocals were suggested, but I flatly refused. I do pretty good with "spectacles," but it is frustrating to not have that instantly sharp focus like I used to have. You recall me mentioning that I hunt. Well, it ain't what it used to be. I even prefer using iron sights a lot of times because the minor-league scopes that fit my budget are harder and harder to use. Zeiss, Leupold and the like are not affordable for me.

[Dr Mordrid]

It's almost purely heredity, although vitamin A intake and its metabolism can affect it as well.

Having more rods in the retina can help both detail and night vision. Rods are the greyscale & detail sensing vision cells. Cones, the color sensing cells, are essentially blind at low light levels.

I'm mostly Scandanavian. Some anatomists have told me some members of this group tends to better night vision for environmental reasons.

Dr. Mordrid

[Wiken]

Hey hey
is Tmpgenc only standalone? or is it also in an plugin version for programs like adobe premiere?

[Dr Mordrid]

Yup. Standalone only. I don't hold much hope for a plugin version as the author is very busy just upgrading and trying to come out with a multi-language version that won't need translation patches.

Dr. Mordrid

[dchip]

Next I've got to try a VCD from this great encoder in a few DVD players to see what happens.

Glad to hear Tsunami's author is working on the install process. For the complete novice or those not familiar with directory structure and locating files, the current install process is likely an unacceptable challenge.

[Flying dutchman]

I just tried it for the first time. I captured 25 minutes from my Canon DV camera into my Marvel G200 using the brand new Avi_io 3.01, then loaded the files into Virtualdub. The format I used was MJPG at 704x576 (PAL).
Virtualdub automatically loaded all segments which is a NICE improvement in Avi_IO (Thanks, Markus!)
I then de-interlaced, cropped the @@##$&&! black borders away and did a bilinear resize to 352x288 which gives me a pretty noise-free picture.
Then I started VirtualDub's frame server. The resulting VCD mpeg file looks a lot brighter and slightly sharper than Panasonic. Colors are more natural, too. But it took six hours to encode 25 minutes of video... If this encoder is reliable and stable it beats all others!
Tomorrow I'll give SVCD a shot.

[Wiken]

Hey hey, if you have like one avi that contains 2 musicvideos and i want to convert one of those videos with tmpgenc, what is the best way to doit?

[dchip]

Wiken. I'm still getting to know TMPGEnc myself. I poked around pretty carefully in its menus just now and I don't see way to select just the frames you want to encode from your AVI. Unless I missed something, it looks like you must encode all, or nothing. The Panasonic encoder does allow you to encode only the frames you want.

For TMPGEnc you'll just need to use something to snip away the unwanted portion of your AVI before inputting the desired part into TMPGEnc, or you'll need to encode the whole thing and trim and snip the outputted MPG.