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  • Watching "Full" 720 x 575 DV Clips

    So now I've moved over to DV. However I still have a problem. I would have to deinterlace captured clips in order to view on my PC monitor.

    Is there a way to view 720 x 576 clips on a PC monitor without first having to deinterlace or resize to 352 x 288 ?

    Debbie
    We pass this way only once. Make the most of it !

  • #2
    Why do you have to deinterlace? I've no problem viewing captured DV in WMP, MSP or whatever. Sorry, am I thick or what?
    Brian (the devil incarnate)

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    • #3
      Hi Bri,

      "am I thick or what?" Is that's how you feel ? Who ma I to argue !!

      Yes, whenever I view a clip at full frame eg. DV, the interlaceing effect is very pronounced mostly where there is movment. I have the same thing hapening on sevral machines.
      We pass this way only once. Make the most of it !

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      • #4
        hey

        I have the same problem. Two fields are shown at the same time and not in sequential order as they are supposed to.
        When I output to DV-tape everything is fine, but it is annoying that you cant watch it proberbly on the pc to check for mistakes or errors.

        I hope someone has a solution.

        Kenneth
        Win 98 SE and WinWP
        ASUS A7V 133
        Athlon 800 MHz
        256 MB ram
        7200 rpm ATA100 discs
        Matrox Marvel G400 TV
        Firewire card

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        • #5
          Kennd,
          Is this what you get ?

          Debbie
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          • #6
            I get this interlaced stuff when I capture analog video with my TV tuner card. When I convert it to MPEG-2 (interlaced mode) and play it with DVD player software it looks OK. I'm not quite sure why, maybe it deinterlaces on the fly, or displays the separate fields at the right time instead of whole frames.

            When I capture DV footage, I don't have the problem, but that is probably because I shoot everything in 25 fps (PAL) progressive mode.

            If your video editing software supports it, you can preview through your camcorder on TV. In that case you should not have any interlacing problems.

            Eddy.

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            • #7
              Hi Debbie

              Yes, that is exactly what I get. It is clear that two frames are shown at the same time, and not sequentially.

              Maybe there are some other media players that support interlaced DV-footage. The wmp does not have a problem with interlaced MJPEG, so why doesnt it work with DV?

              And Eddi, you are right that it works fine when previewing through the camera, but it would be nicer if it worked on the pc on a big screen.

              Kenneth
              Win 98 SE and WinWP
              ASUS A7V 133
              Athlon 800 MHz
              256 MB ram
              7200 rpm ATA100 discs
              Matrox Marvel G400 TV
              Firewire card

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              • #8
                Have you played around with your graphics card field rate? I use a prehistoric 21" CRT monitor with a max field rate of 72 fps. Modern monitors support 100++ fps. Try reducing it to see what happens ?????? Just an idea........ And are you using CRT or LCD?
                Brian (the devil incarnate)

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                • #9
                  just use a software deinterlacer when playing back to pc monitor, like DScaler.

                  Software DVD players de-interlace MPEG2 on the fly as well, since you don't want to watch interlaced video on your monitor

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                  • #10
                    Hi Debbie
                    try viewing your footage with Power DVD. As regards to TMPG accepting 720 X 576, it does accept it as long as it is straight from the camera! As soon as you edit it, the result is not accepted. I have to export the video separate from the audio to be able to use TMPG.
                    I have tried upper frame, lower frame, no frame, de-interlace etc - nothing works.

                    Orbital

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                    • #11
                      Brian,

                      I am using a CRT monitor but had the same rsult on LCD. I did try playing about with the field rate untill I have exausted all possibilities.

                      Orbital,

                      I do view with a DVD player but if it is still raw material (AVI) then the result will not be so good . MPEG-2 is very good. I am not sure if I have tried an edited clip. I shall do that this evening and phone you about the result.

                      Debbie
                      We pass this way only once. Make the most of it !

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                      • #12
                        Hi dZeus,

                        Thanks for the tip about Dscaler, however it will not install and reports no sutable hardware.

                        P4 2Gig.
                        256 DDR 333
                        Asus P4S533-E MOBO
                        Audigy SB
                        Matrox Marvel G400-TV

                        Debbie
                        We pass this way only once. Make the most of it !

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                        • #13
                          orbital

                          I too am suffering the same irritation as Debbie when viewing interlaced material on the PC monitor off already captured interlaced material - and that while using PowerDVD 4 to view the file (tried both AUTO and BOB as the wirteups suggested).

                          Either I have thick fingers or a thick head - can you try and help out if you are able to get a perfect display with interlaced DV material please?

                          No matter what I do, the rumoured realtime de-interlacing of PowerDVD does not seem to happen for me - if I want a really good picture on the PC screen, I have to manually de-interlace the file first (re-encoding or actually capturing it like that with Dscaler or some other tool) - while the results then are perfect on the PC screen, the file is close to useless on a TV again because of the absence of interlacing.

                          Care to share how you managed it?

                          What is your screen size and refreshrate set at?

                          Running 450eTV and W2K
                          Last edited by LvR; 5 December 2002, 01:11.
                          Lawrence

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                          • #14
                            Hi Lawrence,

                            The only way I am able to see a good picture is to apply field-base scaling in the settings of DualHead. That will output a good picture on a composite monitor via video out of the bob.

                            Deinterlacing is the only way I know that gives me a good picture on my PC monitor, at least up to now.

                            Debbie
                            We pass this way only once. Make the most of it !

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                            • #15
                              Same here Debbie.
                              Lawrence

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