Adobe Premiere Pro warning.

[MRG]

Premier Pro

Just found this forum through a link from Simply DV , I am looking to start a SMALL business doing party , event videoing , and have had a nightmare with Pinnacle Studio 8 , trying to get the project to DVD , so I want to invest in a Matrox RTX 10 which will of course get me the Premier Pro software , but GOODNESS the more I read these forums the more confused I am.
All the computer mags reviews of Prem Pro are glowing in thier praise , but it seems you users are not as keen
Any feedback welcome

[ronczka]

I feel for you Brian. Yes, in your situation, activation would be a horrible thing. Absolutely nuts. And indeed, it is a form of spyware, no doubt about it. So you're in a unique position. But here is my (perhaps sick and illegal) view of your position. And this is coming from someone who is VERY serious about their hardware and software, and yes, operating system. Being this serious about such a non-issue is a disease, unfortunately!

Dump Windows2000 and get a hacked copy of WindowsXP Pro. Use it to your heart's content. For multimedia work, audio, video, photography, etc., it is superior to W2K. It is NOT perfect, but it is superior. My colleagues and I have done so much fiddlying and testing in the last two years with these two operating systems. And XP is the champ here. A much smoother ride. I never thought I would ever say this on a public board, but it would be worth using a hacked OS. You sound very professional and very sincere. And you should be using the best OS at your disposal, which is WindowsXP...

It seems like you have a great relationship with your Ulead MSP. This is, of course, a very good thing. It is always best to be proficient with a choice application. Afterall, it is NOT the application that counts, it's the final product. More often than not, most users never really learn ANY software beyond the basics. They never become comfortable with ANY software. So it's not the software I say. It's the relationship one has with the software. And to this end, it doesn't matter beans what program someone chooses to use. Unfortunately we live in a world where everything is always rated, compared, trashed, glorified, etc. I know so many professional and non-professional filmmakers who are caught in this trap. My software is better than your software... My OS is better than your OS... etc. etc. Absolute crap talk. I've been writing a 3 volume study of the great Soviet filmmaker, SM Eisenstein, for the past 7 years. Here is a filmmaker touted my most film historians as the greatest film artist of all time. And in comparison to Western (Hollywood) standards, Eisenstein's equipment & hardware (cameras, film stocks, etc.) were primitive at best. And yet this guy was the best of his generation. How does one accomplish this? Very simple. It is not the software, not the hardware. It's the EYE behind the camera, of course.... If Eisenstein were alive today, would he be ranting and raving about if Vegas is better an MSP or Premiere? Would he be using an Avid system? God, what silly liitle issues really.

But I too have been sucked into this rating thing. I just recommened that you dump W2K for a better XPPro. I recommended in an earlier post that Premiere was superior to Ulead and Vegas. So I too am caught in the trap. We're all caught in this trap of non-importance...

Off to editing. Brian. I wish you well.

[Elie]

There is nothing wrong with Premiere Pro, basically it has more features and a new user interface, which will need some getting used to.

I cannot go back to Premiere 6.5 any more, I now edit using the RT.X100 and Premiere Pro and loving it.
Sure if you are used to A/B editing, that no longer exists but for very good reasons, with Premiere pro, you can insert transitions in any track on the timeline, you are not restricted to a transitions track any more.

That and Nested timelines makes Premiere Pro alone worth the money. Also the audio editing capabilities have been improved big time, with great effects like noise reduction etc.

The only thing you have to be aware of when buying Premiere Pro are the following...

1-Audio conforming takes up disk space, just make sure you have enough.

2-It can only run in Windows XP, to some that is a negative, to me that is a plus, both my machines are running Windows XP and have absolutely no problems.

3-Premiere Pro requires a faster computer, at least a 2.4 Ghz with 512 MB of ram is bare minimum.
However if you are using a card like the RT.X10 or RT.X100 you will be able to benefit from all the realtime stuff Matrox has to offer.

4-Redering is a bit slower that 6.5 but not by much.

5-The Story board is gone

6-Project trimming is gone, but will make it appearence in later versions of Premiere Pro, so they say.

So to conlude, if you have a fast PC with lots of disk space running Windows XP, I would totally recommend Premiere Pro!!!!

Cheers,
Elie

[MRG]

Prem Pro

Good feedback , and I am at the very early , low key business stage , sports days , parties etc as ideas.

However I was a little surprised at you saying a P4 2.4 Hz Min

I have a AMD Athalon XP 2200 , with 512 mb DDR 266 , I thought this plus the RT X 10 card would suffice , Space should be okay I have two Hard Drives , 45 GB and 120 GB , both 7200 rpm Maxtor.

I know the manufacturer says Intel but , surely that is not a TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT position ??

[Elie]

If you look at my signature, I too have a dual AMD 200MP and it rocks with the RT.X100 and Premiere Pro!

Sorry I should've stated that the AMDs are also recommended So your setup should be ideal.

I would get more ram though, I persoanll suggest 1 GB, this is what I have as well.

Regards,
Elie

[MRG]

Matrox

Yes if I go for the Matrox card I will get an additional 512 then , and that should suffice for the immediacy , when you say Dual ? do you actually mean TWP processors [ Poss Dumb Question ! ]

Is the Matrox 100 card and Matrox 10 card the same but with a bigger software bundle , not to clear from what I have read

[Elie]

Yes when I say dual, I mean two processors.

The RT.X100 and RT.X10 are two different cards.
The RT.X100 has way more realtime capabilities that you might find handy when working on your projects.

For a comparison difference, check out the Matrox web site here...

http://www.matrox.com/video/products/pdf/rtxpro_comparison.pdf

Regards,
Elie

[Ray Austin]

Re: Matrox

Originally posted by MRG
Yes if I go for the Matrox card I will get an additional 512 then , and that should suffice for the immediacy , when you say Dual ? do you actually mean TWP processors [ Poss Dumb Question ! ]

Yes, Dual means 2 processors.

Is the Matrox 100 card and Matrox 10 card the same but with a bigger software bundle , not to clear from what I have read

No, the RTX100 is the big brother, it can do more in the Real Time dept. than the little bro RTX10. The cards are physically different. Software is probably similar in some areas but not all. You can download this PDF to show you the differences.

http://www.matrox.com/video/products/pdf/rtxpro_comparison.pdf