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    Just thought I'd post a few comments from the NAB show this year.

    I was presenting a demo on Ulead's DVD Workshop 2.0 so I didn't have a lot of time to see everything in the show.

    The one thing that did catch my attention was small MS demo of a HD encoded wmv format DVD. I asked the MS rep about this demo and here's what he said:

    The DVD was encoded in a HD format, I think it's 1080i.

    It was encoded using wmv format at a contant bitrate of 8000kbps. Constant bitrate was used because there are problem with DVD players and minimum readout rate similiar to the problems early DVD players had with minimum readout rate with VBR encoded MPEG-2. Basically they have to figure out how to keep the disc spinning at the correct speeds to keep the buffer full, but not overload it.

    On the Plasma display in HD the content looked really great. Hard to believe it was encoded at 8000kbps.

    WMV capable drives are said to be available in 6 months.

    I'm not sure what's going on here, but I think many DVD players already have the capability to decode wmv format vob files since my Sony player could play this DVD. Perhaps it's downconverting to SD 480i? Anyway the playback didn't look at good as a normal DVD on my player. There was noticeable banding in the sky.

    If all of this pans out, it won't take much to modify current DVD authoring programs to author wmv media. So, we'll have a delievery format for HD content in short order due to the fact that wmv is a more advanced compression scheme than MPEG-2. Basically we'll go HD with the same bandwidth as current SD MPEG-2 files.

    Sorry if I got any of these facts wrong, there seems to be quite a bit of confusion around this issue right now. I just thought I'd report what I had learned.

    IMO I think wmv will eventually replace MPEG-2. As long as players support both formats the transition should be transparent to the end user (fingers crossed).

    - Mark
    - Mark

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    Thanks for the great information, Mark.

    Your post makes me wonder if any WMV high definition camcorders will be marketed any time soon.

    Then we would need an NLE that could edit the .WMV high definition format video *natively.*

    That would be quite nice.

    I'm enjoying my JVC JY-HD10 HDV camcorder.

    I don't yet have a fast enough system to properly capture/edit the HDV format MPEG-2, but I seem to have plenty of time.

    I was a bit surprised that no new HDV models were introduced at NAB - except for prototypes.

    So it seems the JVC camcorders are the only affordable game in town where high definition is concerned currently.

    And it would seem that will be the case for another year or so.

    Jerry Jones

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      Jerry,

      There does seem to be some disconnect between the shooting format and the delivery format. That is they are both temporally based so that transcoding from MPEG-2 (HDV) and wmv (another temporally based codec) will cause a huge degradation in image quality.

      Going from DV to MPEG-2 as we do now is bad enough, but since DV is non-temporally based it isn't too bad.

      You're right, we need to shoot and edit natively in wmv if that is ultimately going to be the final delivery format. Either that or perhaps a HD variant of the current DV codec, but not HDV (ie MPEG-2).

      It'll be interesting to see where this all goes.

      This is one of those issues where we could use Doc's sage advice.

      - Mark
      - Mark

      Core 2 Duo E6400 o/c 3.2GHz - Asus P5B Deluxe - 2048MB Corsair Twinx 6400C4 - ATI AIW X1900 - Seagate 7200.10 SATA 320GB primary - Western Digital SE16 SATA 320GB secondary - Samsung SATA Lightscribe DVD/CDRW- Midiland 4100 Speakers - Presonus Firepod - Dell FP2001 20" LCD - Windows XP Home

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