Marvel, SBLive!, choppy sound with yuy2

[AndrewDV]

Come to think of it, my Intel machine has a SBLive in it. I am definitely not having the problems others have, but the 'green flashes' do get annoying when they pop up.



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[Dr Mordrid]

"Green flashes" are indicative of excessive bus loading, so you may well have SBLive-itis and just didn't know it.

Dr. Mordrid


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[Nick Piercey]

Hi,


Two questions for “The Doc”.


Could the SB Live! problems be solved by using the APS drivers at http://come.to/sblive

Just out of curiosity, I had the “green flashes” problem when I had a G400TV (got a refund in the end), but files I’d recorded with the G400TV played back without flashes when I reinstalled my trusty Mystique220/RRS. Woudn’t any PCI hogging have affected the RRS as well?


Thanks, Doc, as ever,


Nick.


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[Haig]

Hi guys,

I don't know if this helps but I just posted this on our forums:

http://www.avault.com/news/displayne...y=452001-11353

Creative Labs has admitted that its SoundBlaster Live! Series has problems when paired with a VIA chipset-based motherboard. As users of the SoundBlaster-VIA one-two punch are well aware, manifestations of this issue range from popping and stuttering in games to problems transferring large files. The good news is that Creative and VIA are collaborating on a solution. Jon Gatt of VIA has launched a message board thread in which he solicits information from users regarding their PC configuration and the nature of their problems. As expected, the thread is getting lo-o-o-ng.

Haig

[Dr Mordrid]

Gee, what a shock!! The SBLive is a bus hawg??

Jeeezzzz.....amazing!!

On the RRS/Marvel comparison;

Remember that the RRS is a PCI card and not AGP. As such it is a much simpler board than the Marvel with a lower draw on resources. Example:

Minimum CPU requirements min/recommended

RRS/Mystique: 90mhz Pentium I/133 mhz Pentium I or higher

Marvel or RR-G: 166mhz Pentium I/233mhz Pentium II or higher

My experience is that the Marvel works best using a PII or K6-2 at or over 300mhz while the RRS hums happily along using a Pentium I of anything over 100 mhz.

Big difference.

Dr. Mordrid



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[lotuseatR]

kaneda:

I too have the SB Live Value plugged in an Abit mobo with Via apollo 133A chipset.

I now have no problems with the combination, and G400TV vid cap. works fine.

However, I have found the selection of Via drivers, mobo BIOS flash, BIOS settings, and SB drivers had a large impact on my system performance.

Much more than seems typical of other chipsets/soundcards.

I am using the Via 4.24 drivers for the apollo 133A. The 4.25 didn't work as well for me, and I did not try later versions.

Here are some things to look at to begin with:
Is turbo mem enabled?
Is your mobo BIOS new enough to provide 4 way interleaving?
What type of mem are you using?
What are your BIOS mem settings?
Do DVDs play OK (no stutters)?
Which SB drivers do you have installed, and what version are they?

You can email me at matroxvidcap@home.com

[Dr Mordrid]

Yup. Anything VIA does in their 4-in-1 drivers that affects performance at all will affect how captures & playback go when editing.

Dr. Mordrid

[kaneda]

Hi LotuseatR

Thanks for the tips. Even though my problems have been resolved, I'd still like to know the cause and fix for it. I know it won't be long before I have to reinstall my system again. I made an image of my installation and backed it up on CD but that was BL (Before Live!) .

Which Abit do you have? And what are the optimum settings in Bios that you mentioned? Or is it a trial and error thing with those settings? And what SB drivers do you recommend?

I'm currently using the latest Live! drivers downloaded from Creative with the SB tools that came with on CD with my Live card. I first installed the CD version of the drivers, then installed the new one over the top of it. Then I uninstalled the tolls but left the drivers. After I re-installed the CD version of the tolls but left the drivers alone. I don't know if these steps had anything to do with the fact that I now have stutter free Yuy2 caps. I also changed the location of my PCI devices. Now they don't share IRQ with any other PCI devices, only ACPI. I can't find a way to disable ACPI from bios.

k

[Dr Mordrid]

Look for a setting labled "power management". Disabling this disables ACPI.

Dr. Mordrid

[Brian Ellis]

IMHO, Live! problems with Marvel are basically caused by the mother-board. I had "stuttering" problems with two computers using Brand X m/bs, each with a different m/b and Pentium model. I spent literally months trying to sort them out. I changed the m/b on one to Brand Y, but kept everything else, including the RAM, CPU, HDDs and all the plug-in boards -- lo and behold, everything worked hunky-dory, hardly a stutter or dropped frame since. Of course, the new m/b had a different BIOS version, but it was the same make (Award) so probably was not that different. Incidentally the technical support of Brand X was hopeless and VERY unhelpful...

This was a couple of years ago, and Brand X may have improved since.

Curious?
Brand X = A**s
Brand Y = Bravo Baby



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Brian (the terrible)

[kaneda]

Hi Doc

I know that ACPI is power management. What I meant was that I couldn't find where to turn it off. I don't know that the VH6-II's ACPI can be turned off. As long as it's not causing any problems, I'm leaving it alone. If it ain't broke, don't fix it

k

[Technoid]

Aww..

And I who thought that there could be only one..

Followed the link to gamers.com and found a couple of trillion replyes from people that is probably suffering from the "Microsoft VWM32.VXD Bug".

[lotuseatR]

kaneda:

Thought you needed help, but it looks like you've got it all worked out. Was away from the forum for a while.

I have the VT6X4.

The BIOS settings that I referenced are for mem. Found that for best performance in applications, they need to be appropriate for your SDRAM, but not on the ragged edge.

I have used different settings for different RAM. Now I have 'Normal' timing with CAS2 setting, and 4 way interleaving. Never did see a good explanation of what Via considers 'Normal', versus 'Fast', etc. I run performance benchmarks to check.

Don't have much use for bloated SB drivers and no longer use the SB install program or downloaded upgrades. Instead I just install the base CD drivers using HW manager in W98 and System Properties in W2KS.

W98 ACPI IRQ sharing has never been a concern for me. Selection of Via drivers, and ABIT BIOS flash is.


G'day, aye.


P.S. What did you change to fix your problem?