It's here, at last (MSP8 SP1)

[Brian Ellis]

http://www.ulead.com/tech/msp/msp_ftp.htm

[Debbie]

Got it at last. I had given up. Now to see if the fixed the library bit !!

[Hankm]

Crash

Downloaded SP1 crashed on installation Had to reinstall whole prog. Will not install SP1. Good luck !

Hank

[Jerry Jones]

I downloaded it and installed it without any trouble.

I plan to write a new set of free tutorials for beginners using MediaStudio Pro 8.

Will post a link here when I'm finished.

Jerry Jones

http://www.jonesgroup.net

[Debbie]

In UMSP7 I set everything as I like it to be (as in pic.) when I exit and come back
I find everything as I would have left it.

With SP1 there has been an improvment in that the settings in the production library (prferences) remain. However the library will still default to original settings and not
show the transitions as in UMSP7.

Am I missing something ?

Debbie

[Brian Ellis]

I think you may be. Have you tried Window|Layout Manager|New, naming it to whatever you want, however you want? You can even give it a hot key, so you can switch between layouts at a finger touch.

[Debbie]

Yes Brian I did, but it still will not leave the transitions library showing as I would
have left it. It always defaults to the video library.

[Brian Ellis]

Downloaded SP1 crashed on installation Had to reinstall whole prog. Will not install SP1. Good luck !

Hank

SP1 will not install on the trial version nor on pre-release versions, Can you please confirm that you have a full version and the build no. (Help|About and copy the first # which should appear like 8.00.00nn.0, where nn is the build).

If you have a full release version, then I believe this is unusual. Can you please give full details of exactly what happens and when?

[Brian Ellis]

Yes Brian I did, but it still will not leave the transitions library showing as I would
have left it. It always defaults to the video library.

The layout handles windows, not the content of the windows. It therefore defaults, as the window name indicates, to the first tab in Production Library and the first Library.

[Debbie]

OK Brian, if it is meant to be like that, no problem but I still like the
way v7 behaves, better.

Debbie

[Fred H]

No my friends. The SP1 didn't solve the issue to keep the previous settings. Maybe partially but I don't like it.
Before the default NTSC settings came back every time I started the Video Editor 8.
I remember this from an earlier DVD Movie Factory. I was unable to keep the PAL capture settings, like in the MSP8 without the SP1.
Now, with the SP1 it holds the PAL, but not the Project options. Not the Audio bitrate and not the Video data rate changed by me. I am angry and I decided to uninstall this SHIT (sorry) and reinstall MSP7.

[Brian Ellis]

This, I don't understand. The first time I installed MSP8.0, it defaulted to NTSC (why? NTSC is, by far, a minority format, PAL covering at least twice the population covered by NTSC) but I changed it to PAL DV1 and it's been PAL DV1 ever since. Even when I was reviewing Charlie Hills' exercises in NTSC MPEG, it reverted to PAL DV1 on a new project. Did youensure PAL was the default on initial installation?

[Debbie]

Brian,

Can you please see if the following results to you on MSP8:

Whenever I try to insert a large video file about 700Mb, on the timeline, I find that it will
not load on the first attempt but would on the second.

As I have pointed out earlyer, I'm not all that keen on the v8 interphase and the way it
behaves. Also the way the timeline (corisponding tracks top to bottom ) is arranged
+ a few other small things that put me off using v.8

I have expressed my views to Ulead during the trial period but remaind without a reply
(just as they state about replying!).

I have both versions installd in the hope that I would eventually start accepting the newer
version but so far I have always reverted to v.7

I'm saying this here for the satisfaction that at least someone is listening. Inspit of my
disillusions about this version I still think that Ulead, in general, are tops in the the field
of video editing software.

Debbie

[Fred H]

. Did youensure PAL was the default on initial installation?

Yes, I marked the PAL setting with install. Then started a project and the Previous Setting showed NTSC, 29,7 fps etc. Changed all to my own settings, PAL DVD, 25 fps, 720x576, Video data rate to 4000 (my choice) and the Audio to 160 kbps.
Inserted a short video file and exited by saveing the project file.
Next time when I started the VideoEditor8 the Previous Setting was NTSC.
Now, after installing the SP1 the PAL is the default but the Video data rate is the default 6000 and the Audio bit rate is the default 224 kbps, not my prev. settings of 4000/160. Every time I have to edit the project.
I will point out that an earlyer UDVD Movie Factory did the same. I was not able to set the PAL capture and couldnt keep the capture settings. Therefor I suspect that even the MSP8 has the same, or similar bug. Not the MSP7 has it.
The truth is that I don't use video editing so intesive as I did in the past, and I am not prepared to spend much time just to set up the video editor or try to find eventually bugs in the video editor.
On the other side, I am old enough to know that not all new releses of programs are the best, or better than the previous releses. MSP7 satisfies my needs and I stop trying MSP8.
/Fred

[Brian Ellis]

Whenever I try to insert a large video file about 700Mb, on the timeline, I find that it will
not load on the first attempt but would on the second.

700 Mb large? It's tiny for me. Just tried witha 7.7 Gb file and it loaded into the timeline straight away, no messing!

As I have pointed out earlyer, I'm not all that keen on the v8 interphase and the way it
behaves. Also the way the timeline (corisponding tracks top to bottom ) is arranged
+ a few other small things that put me off using v.8

This is something personal: you cannot fault an interface because you don't like it. I much prefer v. 8, but that is personal, too. When I go back to v. 7, it feels like going back to the stone age. Surely you must prefer such features as being able to apply transitions anywhere, having sub-timelines, a titler that works and so on???

I have both versions installd in the hope that I would eventually start accepting the newer
version but so far I have always reverted to v.7

Isn't this rather a reactionary "better the bastard you know than the bugger you don't" point of view? I suggest that you uninstall v. 7, so that you force yourself to learn how v. 8 really works behind the scenes. If you change "cold turkey", you will soon learn to appreciate that v. 8 is really much more powerful and user-friendly. OK, it IS different, but it is better by being different.

Better still, buy Charlie Hills' book (which is almost given away). Spend a few hours working through his example projects and I'll guarantee you will scrap v. 7 (except for CGI and Video Paint, if you use them).