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  • Video stuttering with background task, what are minimal means to overcome it?

    This isn't very much about video editing, but I figure you know best how to overcome such problems...

    First, specs of my machine:
    - Athlon XP 1700+
    - Asrock K7S8X (SiS746FX, single channel memory)
    - 768MB of RAM
    - Matrox G400

    However archaic this computer might seem, I'm generally satisfied EXCEPT in one case. It involves two tasks at the same time. One is a background task of capturing/compressing (only to huffyuv) video from webcam, and this takes about 25% of CPU. The other is watching TV with DCscaler/WDM drivers & 3rd party app or watching some Xvid/divx movie. The CPU usage normally doesn't go over 70%, with turning of postprocessing in ffdshow (when watching movie)/using minimal quality setting in DScaler I can go below 50%.
    But there's still a problem: whatever the settings, video playback isn't exactly fluent. Generally almost, but with a slight glitch every second or two... (yes, when CPU usage goes down it is better...but still not good)
    And I think I tried every sensible thing when it comes to changing of configuration, but problem remains the same with different variations of codecs/software.

    So...I'm guessing that even though CPU is theoretically powerfull enough, it can't for some reason use that full power, perhaps because of constant switching between two realtime tasks. Upgrade time I guess...

    Main question: how do you think, what would be the absolutelly minimal specs which will be able, for sure, do what I want?
    I'm guessing that any dual cpu/dual core machine would be optimal...but what about Pentium 4 with hyperthreading? Specifically, 3GHz Prescott (S478), which I can get rather cheaply from someone. Or...what about current singlecore CPUs? Would slowest available Athlon64 or Sempron (on S939 or AM2; I like that option because it's cheap now, provides upgrade path to X2 later) do the trick?
    Of course perhaps I'm missing something and there's a way around this problem that doesn't require upgrading...

  • #2
    May be either RAM or HDD not able to keep up. Do you observe much HDD activity? This could indicate that virtual memory is kicking in, in which case, glitching is almost inevitable.

    Recommendation: before doing anything video, disconnect from the Internet and disable all firewalls, schedulers, anti-virus, all Norton apps and anything else non-essential running in the background. These can all hog resources that you need - and CPU is important but not everything. Ideally, I would recommend a dual-boot with one boot reserved ONLY for video work.

    As for upgrading, P4 HT is useful ONLY if the software is written for it and the improvement it gives is relatively small. That is why it's called HYPErthreading! Get as good as you can afford. If you wait a month or so, Intel's lead will be confirmed with a new range of 64 bit dualies which reports say knock the pants off AMD and run cooler. Will be worth the wait, IMHO, even if you can't afford it, because their current dualies may become cheaper. This is where I'd be looking.
    Brian (the devil incarnate)

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    • #3
      HDD - I suppose not; there are (practically identicall) problems also when simply watching TV...
      RAM - 768MB seems to be around 1,5x the max amount I ever use, according to task menager (and...uhmmm...I was even working for some time with swap disabled ); or do you mean the thing that it's single channel? (and running at 266MHz, synchronous with the FSB of CPU - I seem tothink/know from somewhere that running it like that benefits K7 slightly; and anyway I tried running it at 400MHz - no change at all)

      Also...I don't have anything running in the background. I don't even have Internet connection on my machine...

      Upgrade time...
      Last edited by Nowhere; 29 August 2006, 22:34.

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      • #4
        Dualcore time
        Dr. Mordrid
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        An elephant is a mouse built to government specifications.

        I carry a gun because I can't throw a rock 1,250 fps

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        • #5
          I prefer if I wouldn't have to go this route...

          But the irritating thing is that no web benchmarks truly test multitasking performance (yeah, it can be taken for granted in case of SMP...but what about single cores? :/ )...oh well, I guess I'm starting new thread in general hw/s, the "benchmark" isn't that complicated...

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          • #6
            My guess is that you could easily boost your performance with a better video card. Even a $50 128meg video card should dramatically increase the abilities to do what you have described here.

            good luck,
            Ted
            Premiere PRO XP Pro
            Asus P4s533
            P4-2.8
            Matrox G450
            RT.x100
            45 GIG System Drive
            120 Export Drive
            Promise Fastrak 100(4x80 Maxtor)
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            17" P4-3 HT
            1024 RAM
            32 MEG GForce
            60 GIG 7200RPM HD
            80 GIG EXT HD (USB 2/Firewire)
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