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  • C-Cube DVxplore MPEG-2/DV codec boards?

    I just read ATI's month-old press release concerning their consumer-level $200 ATI-Video Wonder PCI board using C-Cube's DVxplore single-chip MPEG-2/DV codec. It comes integrated with a TV tuner, 8MB memory, and a full set of analog A/V inputs *and* outputs, but doesn't seem to have 1394 (or any digital) input or output.

    When C-Cube first announced the DVxplore, they had specifically mentioned support from Matrox and Creative, but instead it looks like ATI will be the first to market. Will Matrox release their own DVxplore board (as a consumer-oriented "digital VCR" or "Personal Video Recorder" product) in addition to their $1300 DVxpress-based RT2000 prosumer-level, realtime nonlinear editing product? How about Creative, miro, and Pinnacle?

    Also, when will we see a Matrox Marvel G400 MAX or an ATI All-in-Wonder 128 Pro with integrated DVxplore? If you've seen the Video Wonder board, it's sparsely populated with basically just the TV tuner module, the memory chips, and the single DVxplore chip. Given the low cost and single-chip design, I don't see why it can't be integrated into a graphics card (for example, just replace the Zoran MJPEG codec in the Marvel with the DVxplore).

    I've finally taken an in-depth look at the amazing editing features and capabilities of Matrox's RT2000 DVxpress board (definitely worth its price!). But, although certainly not on the same level, I'm still not sure of the full extend of the DVxplore's capabilities (bit rates, MPEG-2 capture compression type, digital I/O support, realtime and nonlinear editing features, etc). For use specifically as a PC-based PVR (i.e. realtime MPEG-2 video capture/encoding from an *analog* TV signal), will both codecs produce the same recording quality (assuming the same bit rate)?

    The bottom line is if a PC with a $200 DVxplore board (along with a large HDD, a user-friendly software app, and a full-featured online EPG) can finally offer the same functionality AND recording quality as a ReplayTV or TiVo set-top PVR. In addition, you'd also get (low-end?) editing capabilities, digital archival via removeable media (ORB, JAZ, CD-RW, recordable DVD in the future), and broadband online applications. There's certainly a larger mainstream market for this than there is for DVxpress high-end editing products.

    FYI, C-Cube is promoting the DVxplore to consumer electronics manufacturers to be used in various MPEG-2 video recorders. It's part of their PVR/DVR reference platform to allow more companies to quickly compete with TiVo and ReplayTV HDD-based recorders. Samsung is using it in a set-top DVD video recorder (per DVD-VR guidelines, using one of those DVD-RAM, +RW, or DVD-RW I think). I think JVC will also use it in their D-VHS digital VCR products.

    --Paul

    [This message has been edited by st63z (edited 18 October 1999).]

  • #2
    The rumor has it Matrox will, indeed,
    release an inexpensive C-Cube board
    with both DV and MPEG-2 functionality.

    But I don't know if it will give
    "real time" previews like the
    RT2000... or real time output via
    analog.

    By the way, the RT2000 is assumed by
    many to be a fully "real time" system,
    but it isn't... yet.

    Only the previews are real time... in
    addition to the analog output.

    You still have to wait for transitions
    to render... where DV and MPEG-2 are
    concerned.
    http://www.matrox.com/videoweb/endus.../dv_rt2000.htm



    [This message has been edited by Jerrold Jones (edited 17 October 1999).]

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    • #3
      Glad to hear that, 'cuz I really want to get a Matrox Millenium G400 graphics card. Have you heard rumors concerning its features and release date? If Matrox will not make a DVxplore product after all, I need to know whether the G400 will work with another DVxplore card such as the ATI-Video Wonder.

      I prefer the G400 because of its DualHead display and best-of-class TV output, perfect for PC/TV and digital video applications. The ATI Rage 128 has better DVD acceleration, but that's rendered moot with a DVxplore add-on card (which provides full hardware DVD acceleration). I'm not too concerned about comparative 3D speeds and features (such as EMBP vs. texture compression).

      --Paul

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