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  • Fuji S6000: the "puke on command" camera

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    My Puke-on-Command Camera

    As you can tell from galleries like this one, I'm really not much of a photographer. But I do appreciate a good camera. So I was psyched when the folks at Fuji sent me a new S6000fd to try out on my trip to Iraq. Too bad I really couldn't make better use of the thing. Which I'm not sure was entirely my fault -- despite my long-standing ridership on photography's short bus.

    For example, one day in Fallujah, I jumped out of a Humvee, to snap a couple of shots of a food run that wasn't exactly playing out according to plan. The batteries all spilled to the floor of the truck. So I spent a couple of minutes scooping up Duracells, instead of documenting what went down. The same thing happened over and over again, during my month in Iraq: any time I really wanted a picture, the batteries would come flying out of the camera. Not even a heavy application of duct tape could keep this alkaline equivalent of projectile vomiting from happening. It's like the camera was South Park's Stan, and there was always a cute girl on the playground.


    Even harder to handle was the camera's supposed "face detection" technology, which -- in theory -- was supposed to help me to focus in on a soldier's mug, rather than the muzzle of his gun. But the algorithm only seemed to click in at the most random of moments. No amount of button-mashing or manual-consulting seemed to be able to produce a repeatable effect: sometimes it was mug, sometimes it was muzzle.


    The flash was also a mystery. I've never had major issues getting lighting right with my wife's Cannon Digital Rebel XT, but with this one... As they say in Iraq, oy vey. My choices seemed to be over-dark and overexposed.



    The S6000 had its good moments, though. With a 10.7X optical zoom, it allowed me to stick my nose into action from a good distance away. It was easy to hold. And the advanced settings were simple-to-configure. I'm sure a real photographer could've taken advantage.
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  • #2
    Indeed Fuji's face detection SUCKS.
    Originally posted by Gurm
    .. some very fair skinned women just have a nasty brown crack no matter what...

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    • #3
      I just bought a fuji for my wife for christmas.. can the face detection be turned off, or somehow made to be less of a problem?
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      • #4
        How many threads down are you pimping the F31/f50fd?
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        • #5
          Well, want a second opinion? I have this camera.

          … The batteries all spilled to the floor….

          True.

          The door does suck. Just remember, the door must be closed properly in the first place, once closed the right way, the only way to send the batteries flying would be to bump the door somehow. Like pulling it out from a tight holster style bag a little too fast.
          If not closed properly (must feel the “snap” when closing it) the batteries may fly out at any time. Once I learned about the “snap”, the accidents minimized to a few fast “draws” out of the holster.

          ….. The flash was also a mystery…..

          When the first camera came in, I was on the phone with Fuji Tech support ½ an hour later asking if this is the way the camera should behave. The tech guy told me no, and advised to return this camera for replacement

          So I did. When the second camera arrived, I realized that the tech support guy had to be from the Fuji PRO camera site, filling in for the guy taking a break….. .

          It works as stated in this review here:

          Above is a great example of when you'd want to use natural light mode instead of the flash. In the flash shot, the flowers are totally washed out and unnatural-looking. Put the camera in NL mode and you get a much nicer result. Of course, NL mode does produce noisy images if the camera has to boost the ISO really high (it used 3200 in this case), which limits the size of prints you can make. You may want to try manually adjusting the ISO instead, shooting in RAW mode, or both, to get the most out of the camera in natural light.
          see the Natural Light mode picture and with the one with flash, the picture of flowers in a vase here:



          So is not a total “mystery” for this camera.


          While it’s waaaaaay better then 99% of the P&S cameras, it still not a match for a full frame DSLR.
          My Nikon D40 does produce better quality image at ISO 1600 then the Fuji S6000fd at ISO 400.

          And comparing S6000fd to the Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ50, Fuji takes waaaaaaaaaay cleaner and better picture at ISO 800 then the Panasonic at ISO 400!

          I took the pictures myself, I know.


          In general, if you want a P&S camera, get one! S6000fd is not a “real” P&S camera, It takes great pictures if you can take it out of the AUTO mode. Also, for my big hands, I wish that the lens was a bit longer. While sufficient, it would be easer to hold it more steady on the longer end of the zoom.

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          Last edited by ND66; 11 December 2007, 10:42.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Tjalfe View Post
            I just bought a fuji for my wife for christmas.. can the face detection be turned off, or somehow made to be less of a problem?

            Why, are you walking around with a "gun" ?!

            It's not a "problem", it helps if it locks on the face. If it doesn't, it works just like a regular camera without it.

            Don’t forget that the soldier’s face is not as “clean” (if not camouflaged) as the people’s faces you’ll be shooting. It’s going to work just fine for you. Just look for the green boxes around faces when taking the picture, or after you have taken one, I’m confused a little…. .

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            • #7
              Reminder, you can see some pics I took with my S600fd in this post HERE:


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              • #8
                On my F40fd, fd can be turned off.

                Oh, and of course flash at short distances ruins pics. Nobody should use flash when there's enough natural light anyway. Which is why the Fuji F30/F31fd/F40fd/F50fd are such nice cameras: They get the ISO higher and cleaner than all the other P&Ses.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by az View Post
                  On my F40fd, fd can be turned off.

                  Oh, and of course flash at short distances ruins pics. Nobody should use flash when there's enough natural light anyway. Which is why the Fuji F30/F31fd/F40fd/F50fd are such nice cameras: They get the ISO higher and cleaner than all the other P&Ses.

                  this is a bit off topic because only few P&S'es support these features, but still...
                  ...except if you have multiple flashes and very well set up studio.


                  as to be honest, I do use flash sometimes, even if there's close enough light. That is because I have possibility to reduce flash power by 4, 16 or even 64 and by that, it allows me to use smaller aperture.... fill in flash definitely helps with certain situations.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Nappe1 View Post

                    as to be honest, I do use flash sometimes, even if there's close enough light.

                    To use the flash or not to use the flash....... .

                    It all depends on what are you trying to capture.

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                    • #11
                      Yes, fill-in flash does help in certain situations. But full-on flash at 60 cm distance isn't going to give you great pictures with any p&s
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by az View Post
                        But full-on flash at 60 cm distance isn't going to give you great pictures with any p&s

                        Isn't this why they invented zoom for?

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