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[dizzynoodle]

tried it ... nope

i tried to spin it by hand [the fan] on two power slots totally DEAD ! The machine would not boot in any way.... do u think i need to change the multipliers ? or the Bus speed settings thru jumpers ???

i HAVE 2 isa and 4 PCI devices, currently using 3 PCI devises only ! the firewire card is out shopping !

Power supply on Case 250W max

[Jorden]

i HAVE 2 isa and 4 PCI devices, currently using 3 PCI devises

Which means you have about every PCI slot filled
and one ISA slot left open.
it could overload your 250W PSU, for my PC had one G400 AGP, 3 PCI slots and one ISA slot filled on a 250W PSU, and my PC wouldn't boot up, my CPU fan wouldn't spin up.

Does your casefan spin up? Do you hear anything coming as a sound from your PC when you boot up?

If not, then your mobo is incompatible, or maybe you can try the new BIOS. I am using 10.13 beta7 and it works okay.

Jord.

[dizzynoodle]

how come ?

my pc was running fine with the PII 400 and it's fan, even though it was running with a bit of a drag.... do you suggest i take out a couple of cards ?

My case fan does spin up....

I tried using the 1.14 beta1 yestday with the PIII750 but it did not help so i flushed back to the 1.12... i could not find the 1.13 anywhere do u think i should try flushing again ack to 1.14 ?

i'm being a pain about asking AGAIN if the bus speed/ multiplier setting may pplay a aprt in this !??

[xortam]

The CuMine chips draw less power and therefore run cooler but you will need to get some cooling on there soon. The proper slocket will allow correct HSF placement and support voltage regulation. What you need to do is return the slocket and buy an "approved" slocket such as the Abit SlotKET!!! that I use or one of those mentioned on the CTechNet site. You need to buy a slocket which will allow you to set the voltage level. If the system doesn't boot up at default voltage, then you need to start nudging up the voltage until the system will POST and then stay up while running under stress. Don't run the CPU at any higher voltage than is necessary to run a stable system. You will definitely have to fit on a cooler to handle the higher CPU temperatures due to the increased voltage.

P.S. Forget the MB jumpers. As I said, the multiplier jumper is meaningless on these new CPUs: the CPU is multiplier locked. Leave the FSB at 100 MHz for now.

[dizzynoodle]

fried ?

could i have fried the cpu if the voltage that the MOBO sneds to the cpu [PII] was 2v and the new PIII 800 requires 1.75 ? Assuming that the slot key i am using does not regulate voltage ? I could not find the Abit Asus or any branded ones... that is why i just bought this crappy one

[Jorden]

AFAIK the 10.13 bios and higher know about the higher CuMines, meaning they know if a slotket with a P3-550 or higher is inserted. As Xortam said, Asus boards like the Abit or Asus slotkets only, so try to get either of them (I asked you before what kind of slotket you got, you never answered ).

I have tried to OC my P3-750 but through mobo only, not through the slotkey/t yet, so I will leave you in xortam's hands.

I'm offline again as a next fierce t-storm is coming on to us, and since I am on dialup, I don't want another modem blown

Jord.

[xortam]

Doubt you'd fry the CPU at 2.0v w/o a HSF for the short time you had power applied. If you can't buy the right slocket locally then find one on-line and be patient. The upgrade is never guaranteed and each P2B has its own tolerances but most people have great success to at least some level with these faster "out-of-spec" CPUs.

[dizzynoodle]

I don't even know the BRAND

It ahs everything but a brand name on the packaging !!! I know it ismade in China !

Jorden have a safe on and Thanx

Should i try to flush Bios again back up to 1.14beta1, even though the 1.12 should recognize the setup ?

[xortam]

I haven't tried the new Beta but ASUS is pretty good about putting out stable BIOS updates, even Betas. I'd recommend flashing with the latest Beta though 1012 should probably work fine. I ran my P!!!/450 with v1012 but the lowest BIOS level I tried with my 850 was v1013.

[dizzynoodle]

i guess i will try it now, since i am forced to work off the laptop [NOW] i won't lose time offline ! Man, my DSL would work after i flushed the BIOS yestarday, so now i am stuck on dial up... let's foget that problem for now though !

[dizzynoodle]

NOpe

I just flushed the bios to 1.14beta1 and it kdid not work either... i am losing hope here ! Watcha think ?

[dizzynoodle]

How come ?

how come when i put my PII 400 back into the system, with the multiplier setting still on 8X instead of back to 4X [both at 100Mhz Bus speed] i still see the CPU speed at boot up as 400MHZ ? should i change it back to 4Xis it safer that way... there does not seem to be much effect in terms of speed ?!!?

[Wombat]

It's <B>because the multipliers don't work!!!!</B>

Intel locks the multipliers on their CPU. If you set the MB multiplier to something other than the CPU multiplier, it will either a) not boot or b) boot at the CPU multiplier.

[RogerB]

Dizzy, Like Wombat and xortam I believe it is the Slotkey that is screwing things up for you. I think the brand of slotkey you have is from PCChips (or like one they sale with their name on it) which is like you said a POS.

My Soyo board had the same problem, you had to have the right slotkey card for the CPU to work in the M/B. The reason why I was told is that some of the slotkey's don't report the temp senser from the CPU correctly to the M/B. So your best bet is to get an ABit or Asus slotkey.

Cheers.

Roger

[dizzynoodle]

OK IT worked

Well i guess u guys were right... I managed to fin a n Asus slot key... and it worked

A couple if things though ;

1. I had to make the voltage 1.8V as supposed to 1.75 which is on the chip - that should be fine right - no harm ?

2. I have PC100[128MBX2] + PC133 [256mbX1] Ram on the machine, when i boot with a 133mhz bus speed setting, i only get 256 mb ram, i guess the PC100 stops working. The CPU is recognized as PIII 800 here SOLUTION i can buy an extra 256MB Ram [PC133} damn cheap if it will solve the problem

But is it safe to keep the MOBO running at 133MHZ or will the MOBO get damaged overtime, the CPU does not seem to overheat !

3. When i boot the machine with bus speed of 100Mhz, the CPU is recognized as a PIII 600 ! but the RAM amount is correct 512MB, what 's happening here ? will the performance be the same ?

ALso, is it nessecary to reset BIOS settings to default after upgrading the BIOS ? It seems to drive my DSL and a few other things crazy when i reset the BIOS settings ! Will it impact speed stability if i do not ?!?

Also how can i measure if there is heat build up ? just touch the CPU / heat sink if it is hot ? or the MOBO / chips on the on MOBO?

Also, since the multiplier id locked, the only option to overclock is the increase the buss speed, but i think i will be pushing it there if i go further than 133MHZ on a 100MHZ board right ? What about the voltage to the CPU ? Now it's 1.8 what if i bump it up a bit, will it help or damage ?

Alot of queries, i would appreciate answers for all of them though !

Thanx all you guys you've been great !

dizzynoodle