Intel's Up To Their Dirty Tricks Again

[spoogenet]

Is Max Payne optimized for the P4? From what I understand, things that aren't compiled to be optimized for the P4 will run much slower than those that are....that being the case, I don't trust many benchmarks run on the P4 to be accurate to the processor's capabilities. That is not to say that the consumer will always see this in real-world performance due to lack of optimization, but a processor's abilities should at least be compared fairly.

AMD chips being cheaper does NOT automatically mean that the system will be more profitable. The systems takes a while to develop and test, a length of time and expense that varies with different systems. Also the support required after sales varies with systems and can cost much more. These all dip into the profits. Initial savings in hardware don't necessarily compensate for the higher cost of compatability testing and support when it fails if it's crappy.

There are many issues a computer company considers before deciding which products to carry, it's not quite as simple as the price and alleged kickbacks.

b

[superfly]

Joel...

Do you really think that AMD will have an easy time against intel in the coming year???...I don't think so since it's a fact that AMD is likely having problems ramping up the athlon past 1.4 ghz.


How long have we been waiting for the palomino to arrive because i seem to remember that it was scheduled for Q1 and yet nearly six months later are nowhere to be seen,save for the server version,which only runs at 1.2 ghz or the mobile version which runs at a lower clock still.


And no,i don't buy the argument (from AMD's PR point of view) that they don't release faster versions,because their 1.4 gig nearly matches the performance of intel's 1.8 ghz p4 in most cases(which it does,i'm not disputing that fact).

But almost 2 years ago,that didn't stop AMD from releasing athlon's(in volume) that were clocked 150~200 mhz faster than any p3,even when everyone knew that the athlon was significantly faster and much cheaper than the p3 at the same clock speed.

Fact is, AMD did that because it could,but now they can't and then there's the updated version of the p4 with 512 k l2 cache to contend with,which according to some,can make the new p4 25~30% faster that the existing one,even when both are running at the same clock speed and will be released before the end of the year and six months ahead of AMD's transition to 0.13 micron production.

Here's the confirmation for the l2 size of the new p4...www.asus.com/products/techref/cpu/p4faq.html


In a way the roles are inverted now,intel has a cpu that can pretty much be clocked higher at will quite easily while AMD is trying to squeeze out as much speed as they can out of a two year old core,but isn't being very successful at it and as far as i'm concerned will only compete when they release the k8(aka sledgehammer/clawhammer series),in both clock speed and performance potential.

[Joel]

Well all I can say is that as long as there is a competitor againist Intel there will be no "Intel Inside" for me. And I dread the day that there is no longer a competitor againist Intel.

Joel

[PowerHungry]

The day Intel doesn't have a competitor is the day it is a monopoly, and will be split into two companies- one that manages Processors, and the other which handles everything else.