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  • Even at 2GHz....

    AMD is still able to hold it's own with Intel.

    Found this at www.amdzone.com.

    Tech Report has posted up a review of the 2GHz P4. They compare it to the Athlon 1.4GHz on the Gigabyte 7DX. I wish those guys had a 8K7A of K7 Master around, because I think the Athlon marks could be improved with them. Anyway, the 2GHz P4 isn't the dominating performer *ntel wishes it was, and the Palomino should do a good job whipping it.

    "We expect the Pentium 4 to keep its performance lead just as long as AMD wants it to. When the time comes, AMD will release a 1.5GHz Athlon based on the new Palomino core, which is even faster clock for clock, and recapture the performance lead. I wouldn't be surprised to see these chips accompanied by a "MHz isn't everything" consumer education marketing blitz from AMD. (Did I just use the terms "AMD" and "marketing blitz" in the same sentence? Check my temperature.)"

    Anandtech has also posted up a review that is even more favorable to the Athlon thanks to them using a SiS 735 based board. Take that *ntel liars!

    "At 2GHz the Pentium 4 is even more competitive with the Athlon than it has ever been before. If it weren’t for such a large price discrepancy between the two processors then the recommendation would be a tough one to make but for now the price to performance ratio of the Athlon continues to be superior to the Pentium 4. If price isn’t a concern, then it’s worth noting there are some situations in which the Pentium 4 2.0GHz is noticeably more than what AMD’s current flagship can offer. What you really must take away from this review is that the potential for the Pentium 4’s future is becoming more and more visible as the processor matures."

    HardOCP also has posted up their review of the 2GHz P4.

    "Gone are the days of judging something by the number printed on the retail package! We can see from the numbers that 1.4GHz = 2.0GHz to put it loosely. I think a good analogy for this might be one of horsepower. A V12 and a V8 engine, do the same thing, they deliver power, but they do it in different ways. You know as well as we do that simply the addition of four cylinders do not make a better or more powerful engine. Comparatively, the educated computer builder needs to realize that just because the GHz number is bigger, it does mean it is a faster system. Did that make sense? I hope you get our meaning here. We saw the Athlon4 at 1.4GHz keep steady pace with the 2GHz P4 CPU and it could easily be argued that the Athlon4 is every bit as fast as the P4 in respect to performance."
    Joel
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  • #2
    Still for some speed is not everything!
    According to the latest official figures, 43% of all statistics are totally worthless...

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    • #3
      Now if there were a good chipset available for AMD chips!

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      • #4
        Tom´s as usual have slipped and elected the PIV 2Ghz the best thing after sliced bread I wonder if that is anything related to the BIG Intel add on Tom´s front page

        Wow. Intel finally catch on performance with a cpu that is a whole 600 Mhz slower, realeasing a cpu that´s $400 more expensive. Have you noticed the latest Athlon 1400 266 price? $130.

        Argument is that they Intel has the fastest cpu for now. Big deal. If money is no obhect and if you only want bragging rights, why not go with an Alpha plaform? It surely would beat the PIV everytime, so therefore PIV sucks.

        PS: Gurm, there is: *AMD 760*. Period. You can´t really point anything to it. Shame that most are pairing its northbridge with the VIA 686B. Of course VIA is garbage, ALI is a joke (there is a new stepping floating around, though) and where are the SIS boards?
        Last edited by Nuno; 28 August 2001, 04:49.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Nuno


          Wow. Intel finally catch on performance with a cpu that is a whole 600 Mhz slower, realeasing a cpu that´s $400 more expensive. Have you noticed the latest Athlon 1400 266 price? $130.

          I've seen 1.4 Athlons going for $110 with out a fan...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Nuno
            ...and where are the SIS boards?


            here, they are really cheap, you can get a board with 1.4 gig cpu and 256 ram for really cheap now

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Gurm
              Now if there were a good chipset available for AMD chips!

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              • #8
                Cool thing. So if you do the math you can buy a respectable Thunderbird DDR system (without monitor) for the same price as a boxed PIV 2.0 Gigahertz... Amazing!

                I am waiting for the desktop Palominos. No DDR for me still, but I think a affordable 1.6 palomino would be a nice upgrade for my Tb 900@1000 on a Asus A7V133...

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                • #9
                  Yeah that Tyan board looks nice, but I'm leery of ANYTHING using a 686B. I've got dual P3's on a KT133a w/686A right now and I'm fairly happy with it.

                  - Gurm
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                  I would still get screwed

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                  • #10
                    uh... P3´s on a KT133a?

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                    • #11
                      He probably meant the Apollo 133a, or whatever VIA is calling it.

                      Maybe I'll be getting a Tiger motherboard...hmm.....
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Gurm [/i]
                        Yeah that Tyan board looks nice, but I'm leery of ANYTHING using a 686B. I've got dual P3's on a KT133a w/686A right now and I'm fairly happy with it.

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                        • #13
                          I'm seriously considering getting a SIS 735 based board, looks sweet and gives me the option of using DDR without forcing me to.
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                          • #14
                            Things may well change as new versions of Intels P4 compiler start bing used to update software. Most software now has been run through PIII optimized compilers.

                            The tests I've seen say that existing software run though this compiler drastically ups performance on P4 systems.

                            This is very good news for MSPro 6.5 users. It's optimized.

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                            • #15
                              Geee .... just listen to yourself !

                              Why did you even mention the P4, this should have been an AMD thread instead !

                              One poster is bashing TOM for having an *ntel banner on his site while Joel is posting stuff from AMDZONE ..... HELLO!
                              If you don't like rev. 1 of the P4 then fine by me.

                              oh well.

                              I don't get it ... why oh why doesn't AMD just release a 1.5 Ghz palomino CPU and be done with it ? It was due 8 months ago.
                              And this lame excuse : we don't need to put out a faster CPU because the ones we have out is way waster than anything *ntel can throw at us.
                              Excuse me ! When they first launched the Athlon they didn't have any problems topping *ntels P3 in Mhz Speed and even stay 200 Mhz ahead, but when they reached 1.1~1.2 Ghz they suddenly stopped.
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