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  • #16
    Re: Confused but happy

    Originally posted by Six Of One
    NCRTs are best with small dot pitch (~0,22), low convergence (~0,25/0,35) and high horizontal scanning frequence. Learned this here:
    Don't simply trust those values. There are only VERY few actual CRT tube makers but there are many different monitors from different companies with the EXACT SAME TUBE but big differences in quality. The rest of the electronics is as important as those sheer tech-specs (they're for marketing, mainly anyways).
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    • #17
      Big THANKS for your input

      Support is important (my current high ranking companies are LG and Logitech - which could mean both, good and bad ) and so is long warranty. Yet i have to see a monitor that fails immediately after its warranty expired. In my knowledge they are either dead on delivery or die after a few years, just like mine.

      I think i can believe you boys and girls out there when you say that Cornerstone uses quality parts and that specs are mainly marketing hubbub but i really would like to run higher resolutions with higher refresh rates than 1024*@85, which seems to be the end of the line for the c650. Finally bringing my G400 to its limits

      I fear only a face-to-face comparison can bring some clarity into this issue... and i really would like to know how this monitor selector calculates its scores.

      Well, thank you all for your input. I am pretty convinced now that a CRT is the way to go, barring any amazing offers for high-end LCDs

      Regards

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      • #18
        Hello everyone i have Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 710 which is no slounch with one of the best flat screen tubes, however i was blow away with TFT's visual quality when i went to my friends house, the colours are so much brighter and vivid, you could just sit there and watch at the desktop all day.

        Six in one if you haven't done so try going to some retail shop and look at CRT and TFT next to each other
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        • #19
          Going outside???

          Where these funny brown sticks with green hair are everywhere? No way

          Actually i did that directly after my 15" went belly up. I went to a huge departmentstore and took some glances at both. They offered Sony and Belinea TFTs and a wide range of monitor brands: NEC, Sony, Belinea, Phillips etc.

          I have to agree that on first spot the picture quality of the TFTs was good, although the colours were damp in comparison to the CRTs. Unfortunately the thingies all showed a commercial rolling as a screensaver and i wasn't allowed to "use" the devices. The sales person even denied that on request. Well, OTOH the sales person admitted that he doesn't have a clue about computers... doh. Then, taking looks at the tech specs all machines had Geforce cards in one flavor or the other. What is that supposed to tell me?

          So, i like the smooth, silky and absolutly rockstable picture of the TFT, but i lack versatility in resolutions and speed for gaming. If somebody can convince me that these problems (interpolation, reaction time) aren't problems any more, i would like to take TFTs back into consideration.

          Regards

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          • #20
            here is a review from a UK mag on the iiyama 17.4":


            Iiyama opts for a 17.4in TFT panel rather than 18.1in in order to save costs, but rather than just cut the price it also includes a number of bonus features in the AS4431D. Not only is there a USB hub built into the base - with four ports conveniently located on its side - but a pair of respectable-sounding stereo speakers as well. The screen can be pivoted 90 degrees so you can see the image in portrait rather than landscape.
            The AS4431D also impresses with its number of video inputs. To accompany the D-SUB, there are DVI, S-Video and composite in connectors. Of these, we're most pleased to see the DVI, as this guarantees crisp visuals - a fact amply demonstrated in our sharpness and resolution tests.

            Colour and greyscale was the only area where we were disappointed, with the panel struggling to reproduce low intensity reds and whites. And with colour blending, the primary colours were slightly too dominant. This is one area where the Iiyama can't match the Eizo.

            The AS4431D returned to fine form in our real-world tests, scoring distinctions for its games and DVD playback performance. There were also no signs of ghosting, which is one advantage MVA holds over IPS technology. What keeps the AS4431D ahead is a competitive price coupled with good all-round performance and a great set of features, making it a Labs Winner despite tough competition.
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            • #21
              If money is not a problem why not go with the 19" p1460 from Cornerstone? http://shop.monitorsdirect.com/product.asp?sku=1650360 It will give you 1600x1200@85Hz.

              Joel
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              • #22
                The Iiyama VisionMaster Pro510 will make 1600x1200 @100Hz, this is what it's running here, so if money is not an issue....

                EDIT: Ooops, forgot that you don't have the space for a 22".
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                • #23
                  Not only that i don't have the space, i fear i might get lost on such a huge screen. No joke, i once used a 19" CRT at a friends place and i was very confused. It took forever to cross the screen with the mouse and i always only saw a part of the screen anyway...

                  Well, for a 22" i would have to rebuild my officespace and that's something i am not willing to do. 17" probably is just fine for me.

                  Heck, i guess all this talking about monitors and image quality and stuff is confusing me. I am currently using the backup-backup-backup monitor of my neighbor... a 14" CRT that barely manages standard VGA. Can you feel the pain? I can...

                  EDIT: Borat, thanks for the excerpt. I will try ot get my hands on one to see it live.

                  Regards

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