Installing Mandrake 8.2!

[AlgoRhythm]

Uhhhh.... No.

Sorry, try again, Gurm.

http://www.codeweavers.com

AlgoRhythm

[Wombat]

I was running Word97 on Linux a couple years ago. The only thing that was messed up were the different font sizes.

Codeweavers does some cool stuff though. CounterStrike under Linux is flawless.

[Marshmallowman]

its real...the article I am talking about is dated 27 of march.

but I am still happy enough with linux's free stuff.
Real programers use text editors anyway, and who needs splell checker anywais

[DGhost]

I have to say two things...

Ugh. Mandrake.

second is...

Ugh. Linux.

[DentyCracker]

Installed it a couple days ago. Works fine for me. it autoconfigured my TV card and my Webcam works better in Mandrake than XP (It is a Logitech Quickcam Express that also works well in Win98SE) It shits a brick in XP though, even through three driver updates. DRI is enabled by default and it runs great at 1600x1200. I even have my cnet winmodem working with it (drivers courtesy of Mark Boucher (mbsi)

[The PIT]

Still doesn't handle dhcp well though. Network wizards/Samba wizards need a bit of work as well.
Just got two problems I can see XP shared drives but theres no folders and it complains about the hostname if I try and browse the network.

[Gurm]

Would you listen to you guys?

This is my issue with Linux.

It's not that it isn't powerful, or doesn't have potential.

It's that you can't get ordinary, everyday tasks done - yet y'all act like it's a non-issue.

Sorry, but if I can't connect to the shared drives properly, it's an issue. If I can't get my font sizes to match those of my colleagues - it's a MAJOR issue.

I love listening to people's Linux stories. It's inevitably something along the lines of "yeah it works great! hardware x worked flawlessly, and hardware y worked flawlessly. there are no drivers for hardware z, and I can't check my e-mail, but... it's a GREAT OS!"

- Gurm

[Technoid]

Originally posted by Gurm
I love listening to people's Linux stories. It's inevitably something along the lines of "yeah it works great! hardware x worked flawlessly, and hardware y worked flawlessly. there are no drivers for hardware z, and I can't check my e-mail, but... it's a GREAT OS!"

- Gurm

Hm.....
Sounds just like a user who tried to "convince" me that WindowsXP was the only usable OS

And it also fits Win2000 in the first half year

[The PIT]

Linux isn't designed with Joe bloggs in mind and thats the major problem. It also comes in many flavours and thats the other problem. Linux has also got the windoze bloat disease as well which will make degugging harder and harder.
It can have potential and it's getting easier but it's got a long way to go.
My main issue with Mandrake is that it seems you've got to used fixed ip's to get the darn thing to even start to talk to the other machines on the network. Now if I was setting a group of machines up on our network at work this would be a major issue as we use dhcp. Okay it could have been me thats ballsed it up but the wizards don't give you any real choice apart from the default settings which don't work.
Now you could have Microsoft Linux with Microsoft office for Lunix which would probably clear up the market for them. I wonder if they ever consider it.

[Technoid]

"Joe Awerage" can't install a NIC and konfigure a network on a MS os either....

AND

"Joe Awerage" usualy buys his computer preloaded and usualy never change a bit in it and rarely installs new software.

So he wouldent know the difference!

and about word dokument compatibility:

Every week we get irrate users who can't open a word dokument he got with E-mail because he has word 6 and the dokument is word2000 formatted!!

[The PIT]

Linux is more complex that Windoze.
The wizards (Mandrake can't comment about the others) are half baked and basically tell you the wrong settings and despite saying you can change the setting it refuses to accept anything else other than the one it gave in the first place.
Configuration files are scattered all over the place while under windoze it's in the registry in most cases.
Half the time when you download apps for pc the instructions are plain wrong or if it does install installs itself god knows where and although it tells you it will put a shortcut on the menus and the kde desktop fails to do so so you have to do it yourself.
I used to find it funny about Linux users saying Microshaft are full of security holes. Everytime I updated in the earlier mandrake distros many updates had a known security bug now this doesn't seem to happen but perhaps they've switched that part of the message off!

[DGhost]

Originally posted by The PIT
Linux is more complex that Windoze.
The wizards (Mandrake can't comment about the others) are half baked and basically tell you the wrong settings and despite saying you can change the setting it refuses to accept anything else other than the one it gave in the first place.
Configuration files are scattered all over the place while under windoze it's in the registry in most cases.
Half the time when you download apps for pc the instructions are plain wrong or if it does install installs itself god knows where and although it tells you it will put a shortcut on the menus and the kde desktop fails to do so so you have to do it yourself.
I used to find it funny about Linux users saying Microshaft are full of security holes. Everytime I updated in the earlier mandrake distros many updates had a known security bug now this doesn't seem to happen but perhaps they've switched that part of the message off!

Part of your problem there is Mandrake.

Mandrake has *always* been a buggy Linux release. i have seen versions that would flood all machines on the network (through 3 switches) with random traffic if you ran mars_nwe on it. and it wasn't mars_nwe... did different version of it, different kernels on mandrake... the one thing i never tried was glibc, because thats bs to have to recompile it to get a distro working out of box...

Mandrake is a piece of junk if you are seriously considering Linux. oooo, it picks up all your hardware devices without a problem! wow! redhat a year ago could install and run OpenGL stuff hardware accelerated on my G400 out of box.

If you have to have a "friendly" linux release go with RedHat... it won't fail nearly as much...

[The PIT]

I played with Red Hat from 5.0 to 6.x the networking keeps getting broken as well so they're not much better.
Linux users like to say it's easy to setup. Yes it is if everything installs if it doesn't you're left hunting for drivers for your distro that probably won't work or waiting for the next update.

[DGhost]

network setup wasn't that horribly broken in 6.x.

5.x sucked. i will freely admit that. it was one of the worst distributions i have ever used.

6.x fixed a lot of the problems, and honestly looked and felt like a different distro. a lot of things changed.

7.x left me feeling like i wasn't using redhat.

and, any release of redhat was a hell of a lot better than the comparable Mandrake release. it was not as broken/buggy/etc.

also, there are a lot worse things to do in linux then setup hardware drivers.

[Novdid]

I still don't get why you posted this in the soapbox.

Back to topic. Maybe I should give it a go. That would make me a first time Linux user.