New Nvidia chip in August??

[roadie]

i think nvidia are supposed to be announcing a new chip in august, but it will not be released for a little while afterwards, so imo matrox have a small window of oppurtunity, due to people hearing about the nv30 and waiting for it.

[Joel]

But see there is a difference between Matrox and nVidia in that Matrox cards tend to live up to their announced specs while nVidia cards consistantly fall short. And people are starting to see that. That is one of the reasons that Matrox doesn't announce it's anticipanted specs until them know that the chip can live up to them. And if the chip can't live up to the anticipated specs then they will revamp the specs to match what the card can do, before announcing it. Believe me alot of work and testing has gone into their next product.

Joel

[impact]

Originally posted by Joel
But see there is a difference between Matrox and nVidia in that Matrox cards tend to live up to their announced specs while nVidia cards consistantly fall short.
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Joel

ROTFLMAO... I'm sure it's quite easy for matrox cards to live up to the specs especially given the fact that matrox has announced precisely nothing about their future product...

[Greebe]

hey impact do you have a spoon I can borrow?

[Wombat]

that's what the reverse engineering guys say...

That's what the law says too. If you really don't like RE, then I suggest you take your computer, put it in a box, and never use it again. I doubt you're using an IBM, and no other PC would exist without RE.

AMD did the 486 and up on their own. The guy that's in the next office over worked on the 286 for AMD, but couldn't work on later chips because he was IP-dirty.

[Duty]

Originally posted by Joel
But see there is a difference between Matrox and nVidia in that Matrox cards tend to live up to their announced specs while nVidia cards consistantly fall short.
Joel

Some people have a short memory... Can you say OGL ICD...


Jeff

[Jammrock]

Duty, can you say GeForce 4MX?

Jammrock

[Joel]

Some people have a short memory... Can you say OGL ICD...

No I don't have a short memory, that is why I said 'tend too'. But then again that was only one spec they fell short of, but then made up for it. nVidia falls short on pretty much all their specs.

Joel

[TdB]

beating a dead horse...

Originally posted by Joel


No I don't have a short memory, that is why I said 'tend too'. But then again that was only one spec they fell short of, but then made up for it. nVidia falls short on pretty much all their specs.

Joel

it wasn´t the only one: anisotropic filtering.

EDIT:

i just discovered that "directx caps viewer" says that MaxAnisotropy=4 on my g400max

does that means they have fixed the anisotropic filtering? it isn´t a driver option and i don´t have any games that natively supports anisotropic filtering, can somebody tell me if it works in games, that natively supports it, and how fast is it?

[Novdid]

The game do not have to support anisotropic filtering, it's all up to the chip, the same goes for fsaa.

[Parhelia Pro256]

So iNviDea should be in trouble for copying themselves the last THREE times?!

[TdB]

Originally posted by Novdid
The game do not have to support anisotropic filtering, it's all up to the chip, the same goes for fsaa.

but according to matrox, the g400 supports anisotropic filtering:

http://www.matrox.com/mga/products/tech_info/pdfs/g400/chip_specs.pdf

and since it can´t be forced in the drivers, it has to be enabled in the game. both fsaa and anisotropic CAN be controlled by the game if the chip and the game supports it.

it is rarely the case that games handles anisotropic filtering, you are often dependent on a driver-tweak.

just like z-bufferdepth can be controlled by the game, or (in matrox´s case) forced in the drivers.

[dZeus]

afaik this game supports anisotropic filtering:

http://www.3dgamers.com/games/gpolice/

[TdB]

are you sure?
the filtering option in the graphics-menu seems to be bilinear filtering, it doesn´t even supports trilinear filtering.
there was an anti-aliasing option though, it didn´t work on my kyro2, i didn´t try it on my g400max.
i had g-police v1.19 bundled with my old voodoo2, i don´t know if it is different from the retail version though.

[mdhome]

nVidia GF5-3dfx

Originally posted by Technoid
And I won't be surpriced if it once again a warmed over GF1 core again.....

Anyone seen the film 'The Thing' where a couple of alien cells entering a body causes it to transmogrify. The same could be said about nVidia and 3dfx. The real performance from the GF5, if it is to be called that will probably come from, and I could be wrong about this, 2 yr old technology that they bought cheap from 3dfx when they went down the drain.



Regards MD