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  • #16
    Plextor has always had better build quality in my experience. That's the most important thing.

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    • #17
      Dogbert;

      MSI makes an excellent P4 board with a SiS 645 chipset, which has the same multi-threaded I/O as the Athlon chipsets. Might want to see if they have that one in Israel.

      Dr. Mordrid
      Last edited by Dr Mordrid; 1 July 2002, 09:53.
      Dr. Mordrid
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      An elephant is a mouse built to government specifications.

      I carry a gun because I can't throw a rock 1,250 fps

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Dogbert


        I've found one LiteOn CD-Burner in an online shop here but it costs as much as the Plextor, which is better then ?
        There's not much difference in quality between Plextor & the rest of the field anymore -particularly in their support departents. Having said that, if it was me I would still get the Plextor
        MURC COC Minister of Wierd Confusion (MWC)

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        • #19
          c't had some problems with the Plextor burner, when it came to copying copy protected stuff (can't remember what it was exactly, though). They tested an Asus burner, too, which worked flawlessly.

          AZ
          There's an Opera in my macbook.

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          • #20
            Dr.

            We have the P4 SIS boards here, namely:

            MSI MS-6547
            ASUS P4S333-ML
            ASUS P4S333-VML
            ASUS P4S533/A - which seems really super cool


            But I thought I should better show my support for AMD and go with an XP system (not to mention the CPU is cheaper)...

            We have ASUS CD burners here as well but they have only 2 MB cache.
            They're $20 cheaper.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by az
              c't had some problems with the Plextor burner, when it came to copying copy protected stuff (can't remember what it was exactly, though). They tested an Asus burner, too, which worked flawlessly.

              AZ
              ASUS, at my last check didn't actually make their own CD drives, they just badged. So you get a LiteOn one week, a Sanyo the next... I haven't seen any evidence to suggest this has changed recentley.
              MURC COC Minister of Wierd Confusion (MWC)

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              • #22
                I'd have to look which Asus model they used, then you would be able to find out who the oem is

                If you want.

                AZ
                There's an Opera in my macbook.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by az
                  I'd have to look which Asus model they used, then you would be able to find out who the oem is

                  If you want.

                  AZ
                  I can certainly try. The most popular ones are Sanyo, LiteOn, Ricoh (since they quit doing retail in the US, that's hardly a surprise). The easiest two places for spotting who actually made the drive are a) what it IDs as in device manager (I'm not kidding; some badgers do not bother customising even this!) or b) what for of buffer underrun protection it uses. BurnProof=Sanyo chipset, JustLink=Ricoh chipset, SMART-BURN=LiteOn/mediatek chipset (I think), ExactLink=Oak technologies chipset. Used by quite a lot of maufacturers unfortunately. Powerburn=Sony. I think that the Philips version is called "flexlink" -but couldn't swear to it. The Yamaha one if SafeBurn, but no one rebadges Yammy drives anymore, because they're hellish expensive, even in huge quantity.

                  Whew, what a lot
                  MURC COC Minister of Wierd Confusion (MWC)

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Dr Mordrid
                    Do not go with nVIDIA's NForce, VIA or the MaJiK if you can help it, especially on multimedia systems.

                    If I had to choose something other than the SiS chipsets I'd go with the AMD 76x's.

                    Dr. Mordrid
                    I had the Abit KG7-RAID in my system, but swapped it for an A7V333, as it had a sad tendency of spontanious reboots. I think it must have been the Highpoint controller causing the problems, but it could also have been the AMD760 chipset - who knows. Now it works like a charm with exactly the same hardware just different mobo.

                    /Jake
                    Who is General Failiure and why is he reading my drive?
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                    Powercolor Radeon 9700np, Asus A7N8X mobo bios ver. 1007UBER, AthlonXP2800+@3200+ (200 Mhz fsb, 2.2 Ghz) on TT Silent Storm, 2*256Mb Kingston HyperX PC3500 DDR-RAM, 19" Samsung 959NF monitor, Pioneer A04 DVD-RW, Two WD800 80 GB HDD's, IBM Deskstar 40 GB

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                    • #25
                      Just the fact that it was an Abit lets us know what the problem was: it was an Abit.
                      Gigabyte P35-DS3L with a Q6600, 2GB Kingston HyperX (after *3* bad pairs of Crucial Ballistix 1066), Galaxy 8800GT 512MB, SB X-Fi, some drives, and a Dell 2005fpw. Running WinXP.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Buying new computer soon(tm)

                        Ok, I think this is going to be the final system:

                        Case: Enermax fs710B with 350W enermax power supply $128
                        MB: Asus A7V333-E-Audio $145
                        CPU: Athlon XP 1800 (retail box) $136
                        Mem: 512MB Transcend PC2700 $150
                        HDD: Maxtor 60GB D740X-6L $106
                        floppy (just in case) $11
                        DVD: Pioneer DVD-116/2 $69
                        Burner: Plextor 40x12x40 IDE $156
                        Net: 3com 3c905c-tx $40

                        Total: $ 941

                        I'll use my good onld G400 DH with it for some time.

                        Any last ideas / suggestions ?

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                        • #27
                          hehe, I had a slot loading Pioneer x6 scsi RPC 1 DVD which was really great while it lasted
                          Too bad it died on me (stopped reading discs)

                          I too prefer slot loading cause it takes less space and it's easier to manipulate when copying CDs (you don't have 2 open trays.

                          The only minus is that you can't use non standard CD sizes.

                          edit: typos

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