New car stereo!

[Paddy]

Ah!! I know that only too well

[RichL]

I've got Pioneer head units and CD changers in both my cars. Sound quality and output are the best I've found for a system with head unit only and no amps.
Both my cars have boxed subs now - MacAudio and 10" in the V**xhall, and a nice Alpine and 12" Infinity Kappa in the Green Hornet.
Jamiroqui's "Deeper Underground" at 50% volume is enough to hurt my back in the Green one

[Fat Tone]

Ah but Steve, does yours adjust the angle of the display so you can get the best view for a given dash-mount position? Paddy's does!

I won't tell you exactly how much he paid, because it WILL make you weep!

I've gotta start drinking in the same pubs as him!

T.

[SteveC]

No Tony, it doesn't Actually, it doesn't have that digital time alteration thingy either - what I was thinking of actually effects both fronts and/or backs at the same time).

Ah, but does Paddy's have a warranty I've had too many things now 'off the back of a lorry' which have broke and so I've had no come back.

[Fat Tone]

I was jesting. He got it from a bonafide shop. Honest!

[impact]

All right guys let me get this straight... so you'd actually buy a cheap HU just to save some squids eventho you knew it was stolen. Ahem...

[Fat Tone]

Actually, I think you will find Steve said the exact opposite of that. And I WAS joking about Paddy. He just got a very good deal.

But if we are taking the moral high-ground here, is every peice of s/w on your PC paid for? Is every peice of shareware registered? I don't know many who can say yes to that. Whats the difference between an expensive bit of s/w or an expensive HU, morally speaking? none.

T.

[Paddy]

It's legit! I just played a couple of shops against each other... They wanted £42 installation though!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Needless to say, i didn't pay it.

[Fat Tone]

Sorry for the misunderstanding Paddy.

[Paddy]

You thought it was nicked???

Nah... I have all the documentation... I have registered it with Alpine. I'll let you know if i get a nasty letter from them!

*edit*

Did i give that impression, Tony?

[Wombat]

But if we are taking the moral high-ground here, is every peice of s/w on your PC paid for? Is every peice of shareware registered? I don't know many who can say yes to that. Whats the difference between an expensive bit of s/w or an expensive HU, morally speaking?

I'm not depriving anyone else of said software. Huge difference, morally speaking.

[Fat Tone]

I'm no Saint Wombat, and if I wasn't in the fortunate position I am in, I'd be a lot worse. But, morally speaking, there is no difference. Practically speaking there is. And you are (would be?) depriving a company of income.

We are talking technicalities here, that's all.

[Wombat]

And you are (would be?) depriving a company of income.

You're making the assumption that the only alternative to replication is to purchase a license. A much more favorable option is to neither purchase nor possess. Nobody is being deprived on profit because the sale would have never been made. Information is not like material goods.

[Paddy]

I don't own every single bit of s/w on my machine.
If I didn't obtain an electronic copy, I wouldn't buy it. Because I can't afford it. Hence I am not depriving anyone of an income. But that does not make it justifiable.

If I owned h/w that i had not paid for, then I could be depriving someone of an income as that unit could be sold to someone else.

Theaft is still theaft though.