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  • New AthlonXP's coming with Heatspreaders...

    Yeah no more cracked CPU cores for those hamfisted fokes out there (Cough Kyle cough)



    Why is it called tourist season, if we can't shoot at them?

  • #2
    Good news indeed!

    If it's not a photoshop job
    If there's artificial intelligence, there's bound to be some artificial stupidity.

    Jeremy Clarkson "806 brake horsepower..and that on that limp wrist faerie liquid the Americans call petrol, if you run it on the more explosive jungle juice we have in Europe you'd be getting 850 brake horsepower..."

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    • #3
      This also means that you won't be able to unlock them anymore, which is bad news.

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      • #4
        Have you heard of the phrase: "diminishing returns"?

        There has'nt been a reason to overclock since the Athlon XP's came out!
        If there's artificial intelligence, there's bound to be some artificial stupidity.

        Jeremy Clarkson "806 brake horsepower..and that on that limp wrist faerie liquid the Americans call petrol, if you run it on the more explosive jungle juice we have in Europe you'd be getting 850 brake horsepower..."

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Technoid

          There has'nt been a reason to overclock since the Athlon XP's came out!
          Hey if you can get "free" Mhz out of chip why not do it?
          Why is it called tourist season, if we can't shoot at them?

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          • #6
            if you were offered a free pint of beer after having so much that it would probably push you through the sick threshold would you take it? why invalidate your waranty and shorten your chips lifespan just to be sick?oohh yes because its "free"
            is a flower best picked in it's prime or greater withered away by time?
            Talk about a dream, try to make it real.

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            • #7
              "free" MHz usually comes at the price of extra cooling too.

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              • #8
                I do appreciate the extra speed I'm gaining from running a FSB of 150MHz on my XP1800+.
                Going from 1533MHz to 1725 MHz is not a big gain, but it enables me to capture DivX at realtime in the rare cases I want this.

                I do not necessarily need to modify my CPU for this, but still if I had unlocked my CPU I could run it at 166 * 10 or 10,5 thus keeping AGP and PCI in spec.
                And if you're not Kyle or Tom, you should be able to handle those XPs without the spreader as well.

                Of course the best option would be a factory-unlocked CPU with heatspreader.
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                • #9
                  Have you heard of the phrase: "diminishing returns"?

                  There has'nt been a reason to overclock since the Athlon XP's came out!
                  That's bull. There's always a need to OC. If there wasn't, then the companies wouldn't be able to sell their faster products. If not to save money now, then OCing is useful for extending the longevity if your current system.

                  As far as premature death of the CPU is concerned, you're only shortening your CPU's lifespan from "good for years and years after you stop using it" to merely "good for years after you stop using it." Big deal.


                  BTW, I'd be really surprised if there were still L1 bridges etc underneath the heat spreader. You couldn't do the final speed binning and QC until the spreader package is fully assembled. This suggests either a) some kind of control that is not blocked by the spreader, or b) some kind of EPROM setup where the values are burned in at the factory, a la Intel.
                  Gigabyte P35-DS3L with a Q6600, 2GB Kingston HyperX (after *3* bad pairs of Crucial Ballistix 1066), Galaxy 8800GT 512MB, SB X-Fi, some drives, and a Dell 2005fpw. Running WinXP.

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                  • #10
                    Sorry if i offended some of our super clockers
                    But It has gone to the point were everything is overclocking!
                    Everything seems to be valued on how much you can overclock them...
                    I have read to many reviews where a product has been flogged because it wouldent overclock motre than 10%
                    If there's artificial intelligence, there's bound to be some artificial stupidity.

                    Jeremy Clarkson "806 brake horsepower..and that on that limp wrist faerie liquid the Americans call petrol, if you run it on the more explosive jungle juice we have in Europe you'd be getting 850 brake horsepower..."

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Wombat a) some kind of control that is not blocked by the spreader
                      Would it be possible to stick these at the bottom of the chip instead
                      When you own your own business you only have to work half a day. You can do anything you want with the other twelve hours.

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                      • #12
                        I think this is a very good decission. I am not into overclocking and I am not planning it, but an online guy I know destroyed his CPU core of his new Athlon 1800+ by accident, while he installed the heatsink. And I heard that many other people also damaged the core because they weren't careful enough.
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                        • #13
                          Maybe we'll be lucky enough that AMD will unlock these chip for us.
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                          • #14
                            Speaking as one of the most experienced OCers I have to say that anyone who says not worth it is full of it.

                            As too how much/how long, think about doing it for coming up on 19 years now and have been told that same BS ever since I started.

                            I have yet to blowup or see the life of an OCed cpu's limited by what I have done ever.
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                            • #15
                              Yeah 103, but that has nothing to do with overclocking and everything to do with poor heatsink design combined with too little care in installing it. That's why I got the Swiftech 462.

                              And for the benefit of Technoid, the main reason for unlocking those bridges on XPs is to allow for those high FSB speeds. There's only so far you can go with a high multiplier, and it puts everything else out of spec. I wanted the 166MHz FSB, and that's what I did. Happily running at 167x10 now.

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