Radeon 9700 maya

[The PIT]

Finally got this installed impressions.

1) Dual support as crappy as the Radeon 8500 it would be better if I just used a switch box.

2) Desktop 2d no improvement although DVD movies look better.

3) On first boot the monitors will not be activated until you boot into the os which is a pain if you're dual booting. I haven't tried one single attached monitor.

4) Sometime I'll get around to playing a game.

[ayoub_ibrahim]

Desktop 2d no improvement

is this comparing it to the 8500?

[The PIT]

Yes compairing it to the 8500.
I've just noticed the shimmer is back as well. Didn't see it yesterday. Damn interferance.

[Ali]

Re: Radeon 9700 maya

Originally posted by The PIT

3) On first boot the monitors will not be activated until you boot into the os which is a pain if you're dual booting. I haven't tried one single attached monitor.

I have the same card, and it does show POST and all. The secondary head doesnt kick in until the XP logon screen though.

I dont suppose you have a flat panel do you? Im having trouble when I have mine connected with the DVI connector. When I turn the computer off, the monitor doesnt go into standby. If I use the d-sub its fine.

Ali

[thop]

wait till indiana wakes up

[az]

Thop, don't you belong in your bed now?

I know I belong in mine Thank god there are no courses tomorrow.

AZ

[The PIT]

Re: Re: Radeon 9700 maya

Originally posted by Ali


I have the same card, and it does show POST and all. The secondary head doesnt kick in until the XP logon screen though.

I dont suppose you have a flat panel do you? Im having trouble when I have mine connected with the DVI connector. When I turn the computer off, the monitor doesnt go into standby. If I use the d-sub its fine.

Ali

Got an Samsung 181T LCD on one and iilyama Pro 512 22 incher on the other. Neither will show post on first boot and will alternate how much you see on any other boots after that.
Dual head support is shit needs a lot of work on it. Pity my LCD no good for games otherwise I'd the iiLyama and get a lot of desk space back.
Shame the shimmer is back.
The games I tried.
Castle Wolfstein looks brillant and runs really smooth.
UT the same
Unreal has half the textures missing under d3d or opengl.
Tigerwoods 2001 dies an honourable death. No surprises there.
I'll try somemore.

[Helevitia]

Originally posted by The PIT
Yes compairing it to the 8500.
I've just noticed the shimmer is back as well. Didn't see it yesterday. Damn interferance.

2D is signifcantly better than my Original Radeon. I see no shimmer.

Dave

[Indiana]

Did you check if it is a BBA?
Most currently sold third party cards are repackaged BBAs (like my HIS). The only manufacturer from whom non-BBA cards were seen up to now seems to be Hercules (they have a differently coloured board).

I'm asking, because on my BBA both monitors (an Iiyama VisionMaster 510Pro and a 15" analog TFT) show a picture from the post including BIOS-settings menu. In fact there are ALWAYS both monitors activated in "Clone-mode" at boot up even when one monitor is disabled in the windows display preferences, the second one is only turned off at the windows login screen in this case.
Maybe Gigabyte used its own BIOS and this is a BIOS issue.

BTW, what exactly is crap with the R9700s DualView? It can support real DualView now under Win2k as well and I'm not aware of any major lacking DualView features?

Display quality definitely is up from the 8500 here, but then this was really necessary as I'd rate the 8500 quite poor in this aspect. I'd say the R9700 has comparable 2D to the original Radeon on the primary output - slightly below Matrox G400 standard, but fully acceptable (to me, at least).
On the secondary out the R9700 is the best card I've seen so far 2d-wise. (Don't know if the Parhelia delivers the same IQ on both outputs, though).

The interference problem unfortunately is a known one and seems to occur in special hw setups. Rev1.3 cards seem to fix this - not the chip revision as sometimes wrongly stated, ALL cards have the same chip stepping, but there are REV 1.0, 1.1. and 1.3 board versions.

Which drivers are you using, btw?

[The PIT]

Powered by ATI this one.
Under ME the IIlyama is always turned off in the control I have to re-activate it and turn the lcd off. Then everything is okay. As soon as use the LCD the IIyama is turned off.
Bios screens don't show on either monitor most times and like you say I reckon it's bios problem.
Dual display is till crap as it was with the 8500 with wrong drivers still being selected for the monitors by default and you have to reload the damn things. Once that done it seems okay but compaired to Matrox it sucks still.
I think the LCD display is better well it seems it to me anyway.
I've got two computers not near each other and both crt shimmer one with the Matrox card the worst. I got rid the shimmering once on my system when I changed motherboards. Now the 9700 needs a lot of juice so I'm wondering whether it's a power supply issue. Both supplies are Enermax.
The drivers are the latest from ATI.

[Indiana]

Originally posted by The PIT
Powered by ATI this one.

Are you sure about this? My HIS has a "powered by ATI" sticker on the box as well, but still is a built-by-ATI. You can check this on the ATI homepage with your cards serial number and Bios-Nr:

http://apps.ati.com/102lookup/index.asp

Dual display is till crap as it was with the 8500 with wrong drivers still being selected for the monitors by default and you have to reload the damn things. Once that done it seems okay but compaired to Matrox it sucks still.

I don't have this problem here.

I've got two computers not near each other and both crt shimmer one with the Matrox card the worst. I got rid the shimmering once on my system when I changed motherboards. Now the 9700 needs a lot of juice so I'm wondering whether it's a power supply issue. Both supplies are Enermax.

Some people reported those problems being solved by a new power-supply. And the Enermax seem to have a somewhat instable +5V line which is the most important one in this case.
That said I do have an Enermax that runs the +5 at only ~4.85-4.9 Volts here and still have no major problems.

[Novdid]

I'm seriously considering this board. If I get it or not is a different matter though.

[Helevitia]

Some people reported those problems being solved by a new power-supply. And the Enermax seem to have a somewhat instable +5V line which is the most important one in this case.

FWIW, I also have an Enermax without any probs. I didn't check the voltage though.

Dave

[superfly]

Actually,there are also rev 1.2 boards as well(built by ATI)...


I have one of those currently running on my main system and get no interference problem either.... I'm also using an enermax p/s(430W) btw...

[Ali]

SHIT! Just lost a huge big reply

Anyway, the jist was I have a version 1.0 and a (probably overloaded) 350W PS
No problems in games, although Fakk2 (came with the card) had flashing textures if I was in dual head mode.

Apart from the dfp standby thing, I would say this card is almost perfect.

The Dual head isnt up to Matrox quality. IE, no usable zoom feature, and the hotkeys for hydravision only seem to work sometimes.

Oh, also, if the computer goes onto standby, then the text is fuzzy untill you change colour depth or resolution. Should be a easy driver fix though.

Ali