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  • #31
    Okay, I'll have to go on the record as saying that this time thop has no idea what he's talking about. MAD is definitely better sounding than the default NullSoft decoder. Also, if he could explain why everyone is switching from mpg123 to MAD/mpg321 if it sounds worse, that would also help.

    And it will still make one hell of a difference on desktop speakers. It does on mine. And if you're suggesting that I need quality stereo components to hear the difference, I have those too, except why use MP3 on those?
    Gigabyte P35-DS3L with a Q6600, 2GB Kingston HyperX (after *3* bad pairs of Crucial Ballistix 1066), Galaxy 8800GT 512MB, SB X-Fi, some drives, and a Dell 2005fpw. Running WinXP.

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    • #32
      Well, I like both Foobar and Winamp, but I'll probably use WinAmp more since I have used it a lot in the past. And I do hear a difference using MAD with Winamp, and it does sound better. What are you basing your statement on thop??
      System Specs:
      Gigabyte 8INXP - Pentium 4 2.8@3.4 - 1GB Corsair 3200 XMS - Enermax 550W PSU - 2 80GB WDs 8MB cache in RAID 0 array - 36GB Seagate 15.3K SCSI boot drive - ATI AIW 9700 - M-Audio Revolution - 16x Pioneer DVD slot load - Lite-On 48x24x48x CD-RW - Logitech MX700 - Koolance PC2-601BW case - Cambridge MegaWorks 550s - Mitsubishi 2070SB 22" CRT

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      May all 0ur base someday be belong to you!
      Give us this day our warez, mp3z, and pr0n through a phat pipe.
      And cut us some slack when we act like n00b lamerz,
      just as we teach n00bz when they act lame on us.
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      • #33
        Actually, what does "sound better" means?
        As close to the original as possible? I never listened to the original!

        There is a difference between MAD and the Nullsoft decoder, but what makes MAD "better"?

        (I'm not taking piss I just simply don't understand )
        P4 Northwood 1.8GHz@2.7GHz 1.65V Albatron PX845PEV Pro
        Running two Dell 2005FPW 20" Widescreen LCD
        And of course, Matrox Parhelia | My Matrox histroy: Mill-I, Mill-II, Mystique, G400, Parhelia

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        • #34
          Also, if he could explain why everyone is switching from mpg123 to MAD/mpg321 if it sounds worse, that would also help.
          Who is everyone and where can i find them?
          And it will still make one hell of a difference on desktop speakers. It does on mine.
          No it doesn't make one hell of an difference. There is some auto-suggestive force driving you to think it sounds better. That is the same force that lets people buy, actually waste, 500$ on magic speaker cable. Have you ever done a true blind test? You would be baffled by the results.

          Both Winamp (which uses the Fhg reference decoder btw.) and MAD conform to the MP3 standard and thus the output is identical at 16bit. Now with 24bit MAD should have an advantage as it claims to smooth the sound. In fact there is a difference in the sound, but so minor it isn't worth mentioning.

          If you want to i can decode some short sample to wavs with MAD and Winamp and put them on the net. We'll see then if you hear a difference
          Last edited by thop; 24 January 2003, 18:18.
          no matrox, no matroxusers.

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          • #35
            Hehe, well let's see it.
            System Specs:
            Gigabyte 8INXP - Pentium 4 2.8@3.4 - 1GB Corsair 3200 XMS - Enermax 550W PSU - 2 80GB WDs 8MB cache in RAID 0 array - 36GB Seagate 15.3K SCSI boot drive - ATI AIW 9700 - M-Audio Revolution - 16x Pioneer DVD slot load - Lite-On 48x24x48x CD-RW - Logitech MX700 - Koolance PC2-601BW case - Cambridge MegaWorks 550s - Mitsubishi 2070SB 22" CRT

            Our Father, who 0wnz heaven, j00 r0ck!
            May all 0ur base someday be belong to you!
            Give us this day our warez, mp3z, and pr0n through a phat pipe.
            And cut us some slack when we act like n00b lamerz,
            just as we teach n00bz when they act lame on us.
            For j00 0wn r00t on all our b0x3s 4ever and ever, 4m3n.

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            • #36
              placebo is a powerful force when it comes to music...

              but then again: mpc's DO sound almost like the oryginal (and this doesn't mean that they will sound better to you then mp3's)

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