looking for a new pc...what is best bang for $...intel or amd?

[omegaRED]

Novdid, what temps are you getting (idle/full load)? at differnet room temps?

[bambam]

thanks for the info!

just trying to narrow down m/bs...thinkin about the

ASUS A7V8X-X KT400 (it will work with a barton core)...thought also about the cheaper ECS K75SA PRO but it would not work with a amd barton...max at 266mhx 2400 amd...

but concerned about using my trusty g400max card with it ...i read this on another site...wonder if it would conflict with my card??............

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Lingyun Q ASUS A7V8X-X Support AGP 2X? May 27 2003 1:07AM

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Rated by 2 Visitors Could anyone tell me whether my old ATI All-In-Wonder 128 could still work on this motherboard?

Didn't play games, and AIW 128 seems good enough for me. Really want to keep it a little bit longer.

Thanks a lot.

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Lingyun Q Re:ASUS A7V8X-X Support AGP 2X? May 27 2003 1:33AM

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No luck, my AIW 128 is 3.3v AGP 1.0

http://www.ati.com/support/agpchart/agp.html

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Shawshank Re:Re:ASUS A7V8X-X Support AGP 2X? May 27 2003 9:06AM

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Rated by 147 Visitors Like Lingyun stated, it will not work...

that AIW is an AGP2x card which is using 3.3v and the Asus board supports AGP4x(1.5v) and AGP8x(0.8v)...

So dont try and use your old card, you could damage the card and the mobo...

Cheers.

[Tjalfe]

I am using the A7N8X deluxe.. works well.. many people here will tell you to stay away from the via chipsets.. probably some who dislike the Nvidia ones too.. I find it to be plenty stable for me, and it also tends to have faster memory access with dual channel..

[bambam]

yes...the dreaded via chipset

I'd like to go actually with the ECS K75A PRO but it maxes out at 166mhz i think so no go on the barton...decicions LOL

[Tjalfe]

well whatever you decide on, I strongly suggest something that supports the 200MHz FSB ..

[Che Guevara]

In my personal opinion nothing can compare to the stability of a intel/rambus system, of course it has damned good performance too, and it isn't so expensive many people seem to believe .

But only two things are really important:
No nVidia, No ViA!!!!! (If you buy amd, buy SiS too...)

[UtwigMU]

What's your budget, what do you need just board, CPU and RAM?

You can R39 mod G400 in order to have it work in AGP 1.5V.

Otherwise Epox 8RDA+/Barton2500+@3200+/512MB Corsair 3200LL/Radeon 9500pro/9700pro seems to be the choice on ars CPU/MoBo technologia forum.

Che Guevara, would you claim, that 440BX, 815EP, 845PE, E7005, 865 and 875 chipsets are unstable? (Intel + Rambus).

Current AMD chipsets are stable as well.

[Novdid]

Originally posted by omegaRED
Novdid, what temps are you getting (idle/full load)? at differnet room temps?

Idle: ~45
Load: ~50

That's with the case closed.

I have an Epox 8RDA3+, which supports the 200MHz bus, and it's very stable. Haven't finished clocking it though, I'm hoping to squeeze a few MHz more out of it!


Rule of thumb when buying boards for Athlons is to stay clear of VIA chipsets. If you want cheap then SiS, performance nforce2.

Athlons are extremely cheap in lower speed grades, sometimes half the price of an equivalent P4. You can't go wrong.

[Che Guevara]

@UtwigMU:

First of all: BX was very stable, of course!

but for actual sdram chipsets:
No, I mean not always real 'unstable' , but the sdram-interface can (!) become unstable (even on intel chipsets, althought more often on via or something like that) when you use too different modules (different manufacturer, clock, timings, single- or double sided or dimms with a different size of memory, to much memory, etc.).
Not possible with rdram, doesn't matter if you use a single sided noname 128mbit 64mb pc-600-16-63 Rimm together with a double sided Kingston 256mbit 512mb pc-1066-16-35 Rimm at one channel (perhaps the rimm specifications are very exact).
Further most modern sdram-boards only have two or three dimm slots too, not more as rambus-boards like in the past.
(just added because this was a pro sdram argument in the past)

And, please, don't say all current AMD chipsets are stable, i used different via boards a long time, but never ever!

via, we connect.......directly to the hell!

[Byock]

I have both an Asus A7V8X (KT400) and the A7N8X, both are stable and run great. Had I waited, I would have got the Nforce2 over the KT400, but it was not out yet.

[Admiral]

Well, let's see,
I had a MSI 6163 Pro i440BX board and when it came to upgrading the sdram to 256 from 128 it was hell trying to find a match, ended with one 256 stick for stability. When I wanted to get 512 ram, the same story, though this time I ended selling the CPU, mobo and ram.
Which brings me to the upgrade, a SIS 735 Leadtek mobo and 256 PC2700 Mushkin ram. Wanted to take that to 512 and bought a supposedly identical 256 Mushkin stick which turned not to be so identical and had to lower the timings to make the two work, at least they worked.

Right now I got a Gigabyte i875P mobo and looked for some dual channal certified ram, thinking it guarantees stability, so I bought 1 gig of TwinX PC3200LL Corsair ram. If I only knew
Corsair's tech support forum is full of Canterwood and PC3200LL compatibility issues. Heck, they just tell you straight not to buy PC3200LL ram with Canterwood/Springdale and that you have better chances with XMS3500 ram. So I went and exchanged my TwinX for two 512 XMS3500 sticks today. Loads of errors in dual channel @400 MHz, couldn't make them work. Tested them one at a time, it turned out one little engine could do 400 while the other couldn't. Replaced the one that couldn't, with another one that turned out the same. Dug further through Corsair's tech support foums, only to find that there are two types of XMS3500, one SPD rated as 2-3-3 7 and another as 2.5-4-4 8, though they have same labels. My luck, I happen to have one of each. I'll let you guess which can't do a decent job at 400 MHz.

Bottom line, I'm quite reluctant in believing "companion" Guevara about the RDRAM. Then again, who knows... all I know is that I hate ram upgrades