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**Kooldino** · 14 July 2003, 09:30

I like your idea, EXCEPT I'd partitioion the 9G drive.

**dbdg** · 14 July 2003, 09:59

I'd go with partitioning the Windows drive as well.

I don't install anything on the same drive as Windows everything goes on one of the other two drivers, Apps and Games.

VJ · 15 July 2003, 00:29

Originally posted by dbdg
I don't install anything on the same drive as Windows everything goes on one of the other two drivers, Apps and Games.

I see... Well, the only applications I considered installing on the windows drive were stuff like virusscanner, mbm, office, archiving software and hardware related software (e.g. pda-sync, camera control software, twain drivers, ...), ... you know, software that starts acting as if it were part of Windows.

Also, I didn't want to make my first partition too small, as e.g. winzip seems to experience problems then, but IE also downloads somewhere to the first drive before copying the files to their designated destination.

Euhm, how big would you take the Windows partition ? About 3-4 GB ?

Jörg

**Rakido** · 15 July 2003, 00:55

Gone through this a couple of weeks before. I decided to give Windows a 2 Gig partition, as i don't install any software there except the drivers for the different hardware (palm, camera, ...).

You can select in the Internet Explorer options, where the temporary files should be stored. I moved this to another drive to prevent the overflow on the windows partition (and to prevent unnecessary fragmentation)

Rakido

VJ · 15 July 2003, 01:09

Hmm, I somehow feel 2GB is a bit small (considering some of my equipment has large drivers and proprietary software). Thanks for the IE-tip! (I keep forgetting that

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Any way to backup up the windows partition ? So that - if things go wrong - it can easily be replaced ?

Jörg

**Paddy** · 15 July 2003, 04:31

I install all of my apps on the OS disk. When the OS needs reinstalling, so do most of the apps...

**dbdg** · 15 July 2003, 04:31

My actual windows drive is 15GB but it never actually gets bigger then 4GB (only gets this big because of all the p0rn). I don't alter the location for temp files or anything, too much effort.

If I didn't have the three drives I would have windows partioned to about 5GB, just to be safe.

VJ · 15 July 2003, 05:00

Originally posted by Paddy
I install all of my apps on the OS disk. When the OS needs reinstalling, so do most of the apps...

Yes, but if the disks are physically different and can be addressed similarly, there could be an added performance gain.

BTW, just got the suggestion of going this route, any thoughs:
9 GB on IBM
27 GB on Seagate
9 GB software RAID5 (using 9 GB Quantum + 9 GB of both IBM and Seagate; resulting in 18 GB available space)
(and then partition this configuration as necessary)

I'm not entirely sure, mainly because of the software raid and the lower performance (not all drives are equally fast).

Jörg

**drslump** · 15 July 2003, 05:28

Software raids will only be beneficial in a few ocasions. If you are editing video you might feel it's a bit faster, but it's gonna be more dangerous, if one disk fails the whole raid will fail.

- OS 3 GB (Atlas)
- Pagefile, temp files (internet, %TMP) on first 3 GB of your faster disk (seagate).
- Small datafiles 6Gb (Atlas)
- Applications, games, 2nd OS, datafiles you don't change much (old projects) (IBM)
- large datafiles on seagate

Having the pagefile and tempfolder in a different (and fast) drive makes a huge speedup.

A small partition for small (often changed) data files, this way a defrag will run fast and you'll have good performance.

Don't mix data files you change often and apps or an os, because some heavy fragmentation will happen.

**Rakido** · 15 July 2003, 06:04

Hmm, I somehow feel 2GB is a bit small

What OS do you install? Last time i installed Win2K it used 1.4Gig, so there's approx. 600MB left for drivers. And the second reason i choosed 2 Gig is the 2GB-Jaz-Drive i use for backups :-)

Having the pagefile and tempfolder in a different (and fast) drive makes a huge speedup.

Now there's a question: is this still valid with Win2K? I used to do that with old Win98 (giving the pagefile an own partition), but i remember that i read an article somewhere that this is no longer necessary with Win2K?!?

Rakido

**MultimediaMan** · 15 July 2003, 07:14

Back in the days of Win9X, moving your Swap partition off the OS drive was a way to get a little more speed.

Nowadays, NTFS uses your OS drive in a special way to a create crash dump file without risk of corruption. Swap and Hibernation files are maintained similarly to keep your computer running as smoothly as possible.

If you move your swap file off of your root OS drive, you will be losing some protection as NTFS can no longer write a dump file, nor can it keep the swapfile from being corrupted.

If you are that concerned about the Swap file getting fragmented and/or corrupted, you can elect to delete and recreate it on every boot by checking the appropriate box in the Advanced tab on the System properties box.

Systems with high expected uptimes (Measured in weeks/months) and lots of RAM (1GB+) are recommended to do this to keep things running smoothly between boots. It does however add about 15 seconds to 1 minute to the Shutdown time while it deletes the swapfile. Boot times are still comparable, as the OS builds the Swap file gradually.

**drslump** · 15 July 2003, 12:30

Maybe win2k has improved the swap file but the files at the very start of a disk are accessed the fastest. So I always put it on a small partition on it's own to ensure that it's at the start of the physical drive.

MultimediaMan, do you have any links that explain that thing about the dump files? I haven't noticed any problems but I'll like to check it out

ivan

**Gurm** · 15 July 2003, 12:48

A good defragger takes care of all of this "start of the disk" nonsense.

IF you intend to do a lot of work with audio, video, or graphics then I can recommend some partitioning/layout schemes. Otherwise... I have one drive for windows, apps, games, etc. and another drive for spool/scratch/storage/etc.

- Gurm

**MultimediaMan** · 15 July 2003, 21:29

Dump files are created when the OS crashes...the way the kernel is written, the OS will do it best to not lose control of the Root drive. All other drives are fair game. Thus, if you crash the operating system, you can corrupt the swap file if it resides on another drive or partition.

Unix does similar things to protect the integrity of its filesystems as well.

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