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  • IE Domination Continues and Grows

    Originally posted by WinInformant

    It hasn't been significantly updated since 1998, but Microsoft's Internet Explorer continues to dominate the Web, garnering a record market share of 95.4 percent, according to real-time web analytics firm OneStat.com. What's more, IE has garnered its highest usage level ever at a time when other browsers, such as Mozilla Firebird and Apple Safari, have earned record amounts of publicity for adding crucial features IE lacks, including pop-up ad blocking and a tabbed user interface that optionally negates the need for opening multiple browser windows.

    The number one browser overall, Internet Explorer 6.0, controls 66.3 percent of the market, compared to 14.5 percent for IE 5.5 and 12.7 for IE 5.0. Mozilla is in fourth place with 1.6 percent of the market, but the total market share for browsers based on Mozilla technology is about 4.1 percent. Alternative browsers such as Opera and Safari barely register on the chart, with 0.6 and 0.25 percent of the market, respectively; both are used less frequently than the legacy Netscape Navigator 4.x browser, which also hails from the late 1990's.

    In recent months, Microsoft has sharply altered its Web browser strategy, largely because IE is so dominate and there is little pressure to provide users with constant updates. The next major IE revision will come with IE 7.0, part of the Windows Longhorn release, now due in 2005. However, Microsoft will release a pop-up ad blocking feature as part of its upcoming MSN 9 software, a subscriber-fee browser product that is based on IE technology. MSN users today are enjoying the sort of rapid product updates that IE users once enjoyed; Microsoft released MSN 8 in October 2002 and followed that up with a version 8.5 release last month. MSN 9 will ship by the end of the year, Microsoft says.
    While it's pretty much expected that IE is the leader, I thought that it was at least a little better for competitors.

  • #2
    Why? Up until now they've SUCKED.

    Opera is my current browser of choice, but as recently as a couple months ago that just wasn't the case. And when I go to a media-rich site I still use IE6.

    Gpar_
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Gurm
      Why? Up until now they've SUCKED.

      Opera is my current browser of choice, but as recently as a couple months ago that just wasn't the case. And when I go to a media-rich site I still use IE6.

      Gpar_
      How would you define a 'media-rich' site, and why would you use IE over Opera, or anything else for that matter.

      When IE gets tabs and starts supporting things correctly ( ) I might consider using it.

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      • #4
        Tabs? Here you go...

        And as for supporting.
        While not keeping strictly to w3c standards, ie supports probably 99,99+% of the sites on the net, or close to this number (apart from the ones of open source maniacs, etc.). I'd guess that's more than it's properly supported by alternative browsers due to optimazing site for ie (ok, you can consider it wrong, but that's the way it is).

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        • #5
          Yep. I don't LIKE it that Opera can't do all the spag-tacular video/audio/flash/wackadoo sites out there, but it's just the way it is.

          It's handling more and more of them, to the point where I only fire up IE out of habit or necessity. But it's not perfect yet.

          Give it time, then Microsoft will start to sweat.

          Gpar_
          The Internet - where men are men, women are men, and teenage girls are FBI agents!

          I'm the least you could do
          If only life were as easy as you
          I'm the least you could do, oh yeah
          If only life were as easy as you
          I would still get screwed

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          • #6
            IE doesn't support PNGs correctly, no alpha at all, broken palette transparency, some really weird bugs. This is a MAJOR drawback for all web developers, because PNG, especially with alpha, is a GREAT image format. This is especially hard to understand as they knew about those bugs since 4.0, and ALL other browsers get it right, including IE5 for mac (which really has one of the best rendering engines of all browsers). It doesn't support a lot of very useful CSS (for fixed stuff, to make fixed menus, frame-like designs without frames, etc.), undermines HTML and JavaScript standards, etc. etc.

            If IE didn't have the market share it has (which it only has because it comes bundled with windows, and let's face it, only freaks would bother looking for an alternative to a free product that works reasonably well, and since they only have one window open at any time anyway, they don't see IE's horrible resource management), there would be far less than 99.99% of sites that work correctly with it.

            AZ
            There's an Opera in my macbook.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by az
              IE doesn't support PNGs correctly, no alpha at all, broken palette transparency, some really weird bugs. This is a MAJOR drawback for all web developers, because PNG, especially with alpha, is a GREAT image format. This is especially hard to understand as they knew about those bugs since 4.0, and ALL other browsers get it right, including IE5 for mac (which really has one of the best rendering engines of all browsers). It doesn't support a lot of very useful CSS (for fixed stuff, to make fixed menus, frame-like designs without frames, etc.), undermines HTML and JavaScript standards, etc. etc.

              If IE didn't have the market share it has (which it only has because it comes bundled with windows, and let's face it, only freaks would bother looking for an alternative to a free product that works reasonably well, and since they only have one window open at any time anyway, they don't see IE's horrible resource management), there would be far less than 99.99% of sites that work correctly with it.

              AZ
              Exactly, thank you az!

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              • #8
                BTW, Gurm, tried Opera 7.20 Beta 2 yet? Still unstable and some other problems, but sooooo FAST!

                And on the subject of compatibility: Of course IE is FAR better than NS4, which is just hell, but whoever uses the latter doesn't deserve to still see ANY internet site

                AZ
                There's an Opera in my macbook.

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                • #9
                  Opera is just terrible when it comes to site rendering. Mozilla is slow when it comes to site rendering (and terrible sometimes). IE is fast and good. I'm more than willing to use a better browser than IE, but there is none. Tabs are way overrated.
                  no matrox, no matroxusers.

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                  • #10
                    az & bsdgeek, I know all this. But the thing is - so what? It doesn't change almost anything.

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                    • #11
                      Az,

                      Nope. Still using 7.11, since all the links to 7.20 b2 are dead, and b1 was supposedly WAY buggy.

                      Gpar_
                      The Internet - where men are men, women are men, and teenage girls are FBI agents!

                      I'm the least you could do
                      If only life were as easy as you
                      I'm the least you could do, oh yeah
                      If only life were as easy as you
                      I would still get screwed

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by thop
                        Tabs are way overrated.
                        Give it some days and you can't browse without tabs anymore.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by KeiFront
                          Give it some days and you can't browse without tabs anymore.
                          Oh yes you can. I just don't miss it.
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                          • #14
                            I've been using FireBird for some days as i really wanted to try to get away from IE. The whole blocking stuff is great. But tabs, not really my thing.
                            no matrox, no matroxusers.

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                            • #15
                              thop: Opera is not terrible when it comes to site rendering. Have you even tried anything newer than 5? 7.x is quite good, and actually a lot better than IE at site rendering, and even better than Gecko in some cases (worse in others, of course, and when proprietary stuff is used).

                              Also, Mozilla's tabs implementation sucks, I didn't like it either. Couldn't live without Opera's tabs and mouse gestures anymore, though. Opera 7 has increased on tab usefulness as well.

                              Gurm: http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/ow32enen720b2.exe

                              DON'T install over your regular Opera installation, just install to another folder.

                              AZ
                              There's an Opera in my macbook.

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